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mth123 · 10-23-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IslandRed

Well, yeah, I guess the whole exercise would seem like a waste of time if you don't think he's going to be any good.

I think he'll be good in 2014 or so.

Kc61 · 10-23-2011, 08:26 PM

Chapman as a starter, fine. Make everyone a starter. Starting depth is great.

Your bullpen is maybe Cordero, a free agent. Masset, Bray, and Ondrusek each of whom struggled in the second half. Masset has struggled a lot in the last two years. Arredondo.
That's about it.

I hope Walt is focusing on the bullpen. There is a severe shortage there. It will not just fall into place.

savafan · 10-23-2011, 08:26 PM

I think many people forget that Chapman was a stud starting pitcher in Cuba. We tend to view him like a top draft pick out of high school who needs to learn the game.

klw · 10-24-2011, 05:29 PM

Chapman threw an inning today with a walk and a strikeout.
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2010...ddwin_srrwin_1

Sea Ray · 10-24-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by klw

Chapman threw an inning today with a walk and a strikeout.
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2010...ddwin_srrwin_1

Looks like he didn't start. What gives?

dougdirt · 10-24-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Looks like he didn't start. What gives?

He only went one inning, does it matter whether it was inning one or inning four?

This is just to get his arm ready for starting in PR.

traderumor · 10-25-2011, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Chapman as a starter, fine. Make everyone a starter. Starting depth is great.

Your bullpen is maybe Cordero, a free agent. Masset, Bray, and Ondrusek each of whom struggled in the second half. Masset has struggled a lot in the last two years. Arredondo.
That's about it.

I hope Walt is focusing on the bullpen. There is a severe shortage there. It will not just fall into place.

Wore out bullpen because of poor starting pitching. "Focusing on the bullpen" will start with improvements in the rotation.

redsfandan · 10-25-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

He only went one inning, does it matter whether it was inning one or inning four?

This is just to get his arm ready for starting in PR.

Excuse my ignorance, Doug, but are you implying that the plan is to warm him up in the Arizona Fall League and then give him some starts in winter ball to really stretch him back out to being a starting pitcher again?

Sea Ray · 10-25-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

He only went one inning, does it matter whether it was inning one or inning four?

This is just to get his arm ready for starting in PR.

Yes it does. Warming up to start is different. Are they preparing him to start or not? I don't see how pitching him one inning in the 4th prepare him to start?

mth123 · 10-25-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Yes it does. Warming up to start is different. Are they preparing him to start or not? I don't see how pitching him one inning in the 4th prepare him to start?

They are easing him back into starting. Its like Spring Training. Next time he may go 2 or 3 and then probably 3 or 4 and on to winter ball. And like Spring training, its upping the pitch counts and getting him used pitching, sitting while his team bats and then going back out there that matters, not whether he's the first pitcher of the game. He's layed off for a month and wasn't pitching long stretches all season. I'm glad they are going slow. He's still just 23 and in the danger zone for an arm injury. Did anyone think he was going to go 7 right away?

mdccclxix · 10-31-2011, 04:20 PM

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m_sheldon Mark Sheldon
Heard Chapman did not make AFL start today because of arm soreness. Will update when I know more. #reds

Hope it's not serious.

cinreds21 · 10-31-2011, 04:58 PM

It starts.

edabbs44 · 10-31-2011, 05:10 PM

Not something you want to see.

mdccclxix · 10-31-2011, 05:47 PM

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johnfayman John Fay
Chapman was scratched from today's start in Ariz w/ shoulder stiffness. Jocketty says it's not serious. Chapman may throw next week #reds

10-23-2011, 08:26 PM	#32
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,837	Re: Chapman to Arizona Fall League Chapman as a starter, fine. Make everyone a starter. Starting depth is great. Your bullpen is maybe Cordero, a free agent. Masset, Bray, and Ondrusek each of whom struggled in the second half. Masset has struggled a lot in the last two years. Arredondo. That's about it. I hope Walt is focusing on the bullpen. There is a severe shortage there. It will not just fall into place.

10-23-2011, 08:26 PM	#33
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,485	Re: Chapman to Arizona Fall League I think many people forget that Chapman was a stud starting pitcher in Cuba. We tend to view him like a top draft pick out of high school who needs to learn the game. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

10-24-2011, 05:29 PM	#34
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,308	Re: Chapman to Arizona Fall League Chapman threw an inning today with a walk and a strikeout. http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2010...ddwin_srrwin_1 Last edited by klw; 10-24-2011 at 05:31 PM.

10-31-2011, 04:58 PM	#42
cinreds21 -The Insider- Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,833	Re: Chapman to Arizona Fall League It starts.

10-31-2011, 05:10 PM	#43
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,822	Re: Chapman to Arizona Fall League Not something you want to see.

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