Larussa Retiring

[redsfan30]

Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Duncan is almost certain to leave then too, right? Now with La Russa gone and his wife still dealing with her health issues.

You would think so.

[MattyHo4Life]

Originally Posted by kbrake

Lots of Cardinals fans did not like him at all and it will be interesting to see if that tune changes pretty quickly next season.

The Cardinals fanbase is split half and half on LaRussa. You either love him or hate him...few are in the middle. I really don't think that the ones who hate him will ever change their mind. They have 16 years fo reasons for hating him. If the Cardianls lose next year, then they will jsut dislike the new manager as well. I doubt it will change their opinion of LaRussa if 2 World Championships haven't already changed their minds.

[HokieRed]

Hope he decides he needs to get back into the game just about the time the Reds figure out Dusty is not the answer.

[Degenerate39]

Good bye. So long. Fair well.

Watch the adult beverages.

[WVRed]

I think the one thing that is always overlooked in LaRussa's managerial career besides the arrogance and the micromanaging is how his teams in Oakland and even in St Louis were always the center of the steroid and HGH era. Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire both played under LaRussa and at times I wonder how clean Pujols is just by association.

Even then, at one point I remember reading how St Louis was always regarded as the "Southern Gentlemen" of baseball, especially during the days of Stan Musial. Cardinals fans were generally respected throughout baseball, and it seems with LaRussa at the helm they were a team that everybody loved to hate.

I think Tony comes back after taking a year or two off. I doubt he passes Connie Mack but a new challenge as well as passing John McGraw for second on the all time wins list is a possibility. This current Cardinals team won the World Series at improbable odds, but the team is not built for long-term success (even moreso if Pujols leaves) and Tony knows it. If Mattingly can't get it done, the Dodgers are a possibility.

With that said, is Jose Oquendo the top choice to replace LaRussa? Terry Francona? It will be interesting to see if the Cardinals stay in-house or if they go after a big name manager again.

[remdog]

Maybe the Reds can trade Dusty to the Cards.

Rem

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by 757690

I wonder how this effects Pujols.

And most Cardinal fans I know are celebrating this, almost as much as they are celebrating their Championship.

I wonder how this effects Duncan. His influence extends to an entire pitching staff. I know he's got one more year on his contract but as a Reds fan I'd love to see Duncan move on

[Tom Servo]

Originally Posted by WVRed

Even then, at one point I remember reading how St Louis was always regarded as the "Southern Gentlemen" of baseball, especially during the days of Stan Musial. Cardinals fans were generally respected throughout baseball, and it seems with LaRussa at the helm they were a team that everybody loved to hate.

I really don't think I'll hate them as much anymore now that La Russa is gone, and Albert the Destroyer is possibly gone as well.

[oneupper]

Originally Posted by WVRed

I think the one thing that is always overlooked in LaRussa's managerial career besides the arrogance and the micromanaging is how his teams in Oakland and even in St Louis were always the center of the steroid and HGH era. Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire both played under LaRussa and at times I wonder how clean Pujols is just by association.

Not to mention Rick Ankiel and his HGH use, which was only uncovered through his supply chain and not testing.

There has been no HGH era, because HGH still goes undetected by current testing methods. You can still use it and get away with it, just make sure your supplier doesn't get caught.

LaRussa is (or has been) "win at any cost". Reminds me of the Sensei of the Cobra Kai dojo from "Karate Kid". Nothing would surprise me about him.

"Sweep his leg, Johnny".

[mdccclxix]

Pujols, 35 million dollar player manager?

[George Anderson]

When is he eligible for Cooperstown?

[bucksfan2]

I never could stand TLR as a manager. He was a guy who thought very highly of himself and made games drag on for ever. The pitching changes and the constant over managing made me change the channel.

But you can't deny that TLR came up with maybe the two most improbable championships in history with the Cards. Maybe its karma for his failure to win more with the bash brother A's. I am glad he is retiring not only because he is a good manager but because I grew tired of watching games in which he managed.

[fearofpopvol1]

I think this move gives Pujols less of a reason to stay...but then again, maybe it doesn't have an impact at all.

TLR was a great manager, but I also think he was a dirty manager and a whiner. And I think TLR absolutely outmanaged Dusty every time the Cards would play the Reds, so in that respect, I'm glad he's leaving.

[fearofpopvol1]

Oops...d/p

[RBA]

Sad. An End of an Era.



The Juicing Era where the manager turns a blind eye.