Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

[fearofpopvol1]

Originally Posted by mace

Yadier Molina seems like a great comp--for a ceiling, as you say. That brings me to a point that was made in the discussion of the last pick--that a guy like Duran has a lot more upside than Barnhart. That statement seems to be accepted as an obvious given, since Duran clearly has much, much, much more power. I guess people equate raw power with upside, which is understandable. But I don't see Duran's ceiling including good defense or decent contact skills. Seems to me like it's more on the order of Russell Branyan, or something between Branyan and Dunn. Is that a better player than Yadier Molina? Not in my book. I think we underestimate the ceiling of a guy who can be a Gold Glove catcher and hold his own at the plate.

I totally agree with you. And the other concern with Duran, for me, is the ridiculously high K rates with poor contact rates. The power is largely negated when you're K and BB rates are very poor. I think Duran can be a good prospect, but he's got a ways to go. I certainly don't think he's a better prospect than Barnhart.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1

I totally agree with you. And the other concern with Duran, for me, is the ridiculously high K rates with poor contact rates. The power is largely negated when you're K and BB rates are very poor. I think Duran can be a good prospect, but he's got a ways to go. I certainly don't think he's a better prospect than Barnhart.

I too have Tucker rated higher than Duran. But I wouldn't call Duran's walk rate very poor at all. He walked 8.4% of the time he stepped to the plate, which is not bad at all. The strikeout rate is incredibly high though and what keeps me from ranking him any higher.

[mace]

Incidentally, c'golf . . . Since Chacin has no votes, I suppose there's a chance that you would drop him from the list for a while. FWIW, he's second-next on my chart, behind Lutz. Third is Drew Hayes, who seems about ready to go on the board.

Thanks for taking charge of this.

[Edd Roush]

I guess I will join the loud minority of picking Crabbe here. I like Barnhart a whole lot and was back and forth between him and Crabbe, but ended up going with Crabbe due to two major league ready pitches and superior K rates throughout three leagues. Crabbe will be one I will be watching closely this summer.

[texasdave]

Then how about a pitcher who has the following peripherals through two seasons?

14.8 K/9
3.6 BB/9
4.16 K/BB
4.4 H/9
0.881 WHIP

And his given up one longball in 78.1 IP.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by texasdave

Then how about a pitcher who has the following peripherals through two seasons?

14.8 K/9
3.6 BB/9
4.16 K/BB
4.4 H/9
0.881 WHIP

And his given up one longball in 78.1 IP.

Pretty good. Sounds like a reliever though. How old is he? Where did he put up those numbers? More importantly, what is his stuff like?

[Scrap Irony]

He doesn't sound pretty good-- he sounds phenomenal.

[dougdirt]

I found him. Stuff doesn't do enough for me here. He was outside of my Top 40.

[camisadelgolf]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=manno-001chr

[mace]

I'd actually forgotten about him. Thanks, man (no?).

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by mace

I'd actually forgotten about him. Thanks, man (no?).

[klw]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

I found him. Stuff doesn't do enough for me here. He was outside of my Top 40.

Do you have your top 40 posted somewhere? I looked at your site but didn't see it.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by klw

Do you have your top 40 posted somewhere? I looked at your site but didn't see it.

The top 25 is on the site. The Top 40 isn't out yet, but is only available through the year Prospect Guide.