Where's the Tim Tebow thread?

[Stray]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

The read option is overblown. The safeties were cheating up because Denver had run the vast majority of times on 1st down. I forget the stat but it was something like 80%. If you ask me it was a poor defensive call that early in the OT. It was a very good play call, nice throw by Tebow, and a great catch and run by Thomas. To give Tebow all the credit (which many are doing) is ignoring all the other moving pieces that enabled that play to happen.

I wouldn't say it's overblown, the Broncos are the #1 rushing team in the NFL. Willis McGahee and Lance Ball aren't world beaters or anything. Their O Line is really really good, and the threat of Tebow off the corner keeps DE's from crashing down. Having to account for the QB with a down lineman gives that good O line a numbers advantage in the running game, that is unless opposing defenses commit a safety or two in the box.

I do agree it was a dumb to have both up in OT, but Pittsburgh played that entire game like Denver wasn't good enough to beat true man to man with 3 on 3 in pass routes. That's a mistake I'm sure Belichick will not make.

[RadfordVA]

Originally Posted by GAC

And that is all I'm saying. For some to claim that he is no NFL QB, at this stage, is kind of ridiculous IMO.

This is the key point. He clearly is a better option than alot of teams have and people should assume he will improve with time like most QBs. This team is one that was 1-4 at start of the season. Not exactly a lot of talent there.

Broncos were 27th in league in passing when Tebow took over. 27th! Its safe to say that any young qb placed in that enviroment would struggle. How could they not. They had proved to be a dysfunctional unit already with a veteran qb. While they have dropped to 32nd in passing at least they have become the top ranked rushing offense with him at QB. I dont think that would have been possible with another option they had at qb.

[RadfordVA]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

Does anyone remember Tebow's last pass before he threw the standard post pattern to Thomas for 80 yards?

No. Does anyone remember the drive before the drive in 1987?

[WMR]

Is it just a coincidence that nearly all of Tebow's harshest critics on this board are tOSU fans? Just asking.

Hey, it's cool, I've never been a big Mike Bibby fan either.

[MWM]

It's less of a coincidence than you being a fan because he's from the SEC. You just don't get it, but that's nothing new.

[WMR]

Originally Posted by MWM

It's less of a coincidence than you being a fan because he's from the SEC. You just don't get it, but that's nothing new.

I'm no big Tebow fan. Just an observation about who is leading the Anti-Tebow crusade on here...

Nice personal attack, btw.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by WMR

I'm no big Tebow fan. Just an observation about who is leading the Anti-Tebow crusade on here...

Nice personal attack, btw.

Why is it whenever you question Tebow you become Anti-Tebow?

[blumj]

It does seem to be quite difficult for people to discuss the way Tebow plays football without assumptions or accusations of other agendas seeping into the discussion.

[IslandRed]

Originally Posted by TeamSelig

I think you also need to account for rhythm that is disrupted by drops. It also can put you in 3rd & long situations, etc. It's a little more than figuring some math up to put the Broncos at a league average drop rate and recalculate the pass %.

I think it's safe to say the receivers' poor hands are costing Tebow completions, and Tebow's inaccuracy is costing the receivers catches. Seems like an equitable arrangement.

[Sea Ray]

I think Tebow's lack of touch contributes to those drops as well. Simply put he doesn't throw the most "catchable ball" in the world

[dabvu2498]

I like watching the kid play football.

Don't care much about his stats, where he went to school, or his religiocity.

I just like watching him play football.

[VR]

Originally Posted by dabvu2498

I like watching the kid play football.

Don't care much about his stats, where he went to school, or his religiocity.

I just like watching him play football.

Good point....in common with a large part of the US football population. Highest rated WC game in 25 years, most popular athete in the US, a guy on the narrow path of humility despite the extraordinary (and honestly, too much) attention given by the media.

"He's one of the only guys I know that gives credit to his teammates, and actually means it"

Love him or hate him, can't deny the gold mine that he represents right now.

[WMR]

IMO, the biggest reason he has become so popular is because of his transparency.

More than any professional athlete that I can remember, good or bad, Tebow truly seems to be "walking the talk." Considering what he did to my favorite team while he was in college, I should not be a fan.

I find myself rooting for Tebow for the same reasons I root for Rocky or Rudy. He is the underdog and I want to see the underdog come out on top.

[blumj]

But, shouldn't divine intervention even up underdog status?

[MWM]

I'd hardly call him the underdog. He was the most hyped college player I can remember, and it's not even close. He was not very good his senior year, yet was somehow in the top 6 in Heisman voting (that particular year he shouldn't have even been in the top 20). He was a first round draft pick. He's only an underdog because he's not looked very good as an NFL-type QB. His team is winning with him not playing a very effective QB. If he's an "underdog", it's simply because of how HE has played. How he could be called an underdog otherwise escapes me.

I really wish people would stop thinking those who watch him and don't think he should be getting all the credit, and who think what we're seeing now is not sustainable somehow are rooting against him or having something personal against him. It's not the case. It's just an opposing viewpoint from the constant "Tebow wins" headlines we're always seeing.

I can think of only a couple of other QBs in the NFL who get virtually all the credit when his team wins. It's the thing I couldn't stand about the Tom Brady coverage earlier in his career. He's a great QB, but it was like no one else was on the field. When the Pats won, it was Brady who won. I really dislike this type of hype and coverage.