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757690 · 03-23-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by reds44

Hello Chapman as the closer.

They'll go to Marshall first.

reds44 · 03-23-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 757690

They'll go to Marshall first.

I'd go to Chapman first. You can always go back to Marshall if Chapman can't handle it. Might as well do it now and see how he does, it's the only way to justify him in the bullpen, IMO.

757690 · 03-23-2012, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by reds44

I'd go to Chapman first. You can always go back to Marshall if Chapman can't handle it. Might as well do it now and see how he does, it's the only way to justify him in the bullpen, IMO.

Chapman will be more valuable as a starter this season, even if he doesn't make the majors until later in the year, than as a closer.

Marshall - closer, Bray setup, Chapman extra starter in AAA is more valuable than:

Chapman - closer, Marshall setup man, no extra starter in AAA

757690 · 03-23-2012, 01:09 AM

One more thing to consider. Chapman had difficulty throwing back to back days. I doubt he's ready to be a closer.

edabbs44 · 03-23-2012, 07:47 AM

Jeeeeez.

edabbs44 · 03-23-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 757690

Chapman will be more valuable as a starter this season, even if he doesn't make the majors until later in the year, than as a closer.

Marshall - closer, Bray setup, Chapman extra starter in AAA is more valuable than:

Chapman - closer, Marshall setup man, no extra starter in AAA

Francis isn't your extra starter?

medford · 03-23-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cinreds21

no bueno. TJ.

Gut feeling, or is this what you're hearing? Would be a shame.

Kc61 · 03-23-2012, 09:39 AM

I'd be amazed if Chapman were named closer.

He hasn't shown the consistency, the ability to pitch on consecutive days, or the control to be a closer.

I can see Chapman setting up. But as closer, I think Marshall is the clearcut choice to replace Madson if he misses time.

Kc61 · 03-23-2012, 09:51 AM

Ignore.

Tony Cloninger · 03-23-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cinreds21

no bueno. TJ.

And you know this how?

Please tell us more things you know that have not happened yet.

Homer Bailey · 03-23-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cinreds21

no bueno. TJ.

You're better than this man.

medford · 03-23-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

And you know this how?

Please tell us more things you know that have not happened yet.

He's shown more than once that he's well connected, which is why i asked if that is what he's hearing, or if that is just his gut instinct.

Homer Bailey · 03-23-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by medford

He's shown more than once that he's well connected, which is why i asked if that is what he's hearing, or if that is just his gut instinct.

He has, but the only way Madson is heading towards TJ would be to be checked out by Kremchek (sp?), which (correct me if I'm wrong) I have not seen reported anywhere.

He may turn out to be right, but at this point, that has to just be a pure guess.

medford · 03-23-2012, 11:59 AM

Well that would assume that the press would know quicker than cinreds21. That may or may not be the case, certainly there are those in the organization, which cinreds may be in contact with, that would know well in advance of the press.

The non doctor in me wonders if there are clear cut signs that a guy has a torn ligament in his elbow before he gets scoped. He may not need to see Doctor K for some trainers to feel 90% certain he's got a torn ligament of some sort. Speculation, but something like would be spread around the club house faster than the press would know.

kaldaniels · 03-23-2012, 12:00 PM

The insider has a track record guys, I'm giving him the benefit here. Though I hope he doesn't know what he is talking about here.

03-23-2012, 01:09 AM	#334
757690 Hoping to be 75769013 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dayton Posts: 6,068	Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson One more thing to consider. Chapman had difficulty throwing back to back days. I doubt he's ready to be a closer. __________________ We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. - Albert Einstein

03-23-2012, 07:47 AM	#335
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,805	Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson Jeeeeez.

03-23-2012, 09:39 AM	#338
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,815	Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson I'd be amazed if Chapman were named closer. He hasn't shown the consistency, the ability to pitch on consecutive days, or the control to be a closer. I can see Chapman setting up. But as closer, I think Marshall is the clearcut choice to replace Madson if he misses time. Last edited by Kc61; 03-23-2012 at 10:23 AM.

03-23-2012, 09:51 AM	#339
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,815	Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson Ignore. Last edited by Kc61; 03-23-2012 at 10:22 AM.

03-23-2012, 11:59 AM	#344
medford Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,035	Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson Well that would assume that the press would know quicker than cinreds21. That may or may not be the case, certainly there are those in the organization, which cinreds may be in contact with, that would know well in advance of the press. The non doctor in me wonders if there are clear cut signs that a guy has a torn ligament in his elbow before he gets scoped. He may not need to see Doctor K for some trainers to feel 90% certain he's got a torn ligament of some sort. Speculation, but something like would be spread around the club house faster than the press would know.

03-23-2012, 12:00 PM	#345
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,301	Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson The insider has a track record guys, I'm giving him the benefit here. Though I hope he doesn't know what he is talking about here.

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