4/8 - Reds vs Marlins

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by Kc61

Arroyo was simply left out there too long. It's as simple as that.

Tie game, man on third, one out.

OK, agreed, but can anyone explain why the offense is so anemic except for the one somewhat big inning?

Now, they lead.

[Kc61]

Marlins lead by one.

But don't worry, Arroyo is getting his work in and the bullpen won't be overused.

Just ridiculous.

[Degenerate39]

Same Arroyo different season

[Matt700wlw]

Dusty's a few steps behind as usual.

[corkedbat]

We're paying $25M over the next two years for a piece of toast.

[cbowen2112]

Why no Chapman?

[WVRedsFan]

Arroyo is becoming a 6 inning pitcher. He pitched well for 6. I blame Dusty and the pitching coach for this.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by corkedbat

We're paying $25M over the nest two years for a piece of toast.

That toast was crisp before our manager even thought of warming someone up. It's hard to watch people even try and defend him anymore.

[Kc61]

Originally Posted by Degenerate39

Same Arroyo different season

I don't blame Arroyo. Not at all.

It's early April. First start of the year. You don't have to get seven innings out of Arroyo in his first start.

He was simply left in too long.

And pitch count is irrelevant. Arroyo didn't have to go out there seven times and certainly didn't have to stay out there to give up three runs in the seventh.

This is completely on the manager. Completely.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Jay Bruce, who has now passed Dave Concepcion for 25th place on the Reds' all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Brandon Phillips - 124
19. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Joey Votto - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Frank McCormick - 110
23. Dave Parker - 107
24. Chris Sabo - 104
25. Jay Bruce - 102
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[reds44]

Originally Posted by Kc61

I don't blame Arroyo. Not at all.

It's early April. First start of the year. You don't have to get seven innings out of Arroyo in his first start.

He was simply left in too long.

And pitch count is irrelevant. Arroyo didn't have to go out there seven times and certainly didn't have to stay out there to give up three runs in the seventh.

This is completely on the manager. Completely.

Arroyo threw 82 pitches. He wasn't tired.

[Matt700wlw]

Chapman should've been starting this game. Arroyo should be the fifth starter.

[kaldaniels]

I thought Arroyo had been playing with fire most of the afternoon.

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

I thought Arroyo had been playing with fire most of the afternoon.

I agree. He was lucky to have only allowed 2 runs through 6, and if you get that pull him and get your bullpen in.

[757690]

I'm actually excited about this start from Arroyo. He kept the ball in the park, and his velocity was back to pre-2011 levels. As long as he continues to do that, he'll be fine this season. I agree with Kc61, he was just left in too long for the his first start of the year. should of had someone warming up to start the 7th.