Reds vs. Cardinals Wednesday 4/18/12

[The Rage]

Maybe we shouldn't have traded Francisco.

[New York Red]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

My logic is that everyone wants Heisey to start in front of Stubbs and what he makes up offensively is offset by his defense. We never hear about Heisey's K problem. . . nor has anyone barely mentioned Jay going 0-19.

Not everyone. I'm still on the Stubbs bandwagon. I realize it isn't crowded, but I'm still on. I somehow remain convinced he'll cut down on his swing at some point and become a bigtime player, though I'm not as sure as I once was.

[texasdave]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

Thanks for the reply Dave. You're certainly full of it tonight too.

Well it simply isn't logical to try to defend someone by attacking others. Sorry if you can't see that.

[Krawhitham]

Originally Posted by texasdave

And can't run. But that doesn't matter. He is the Reds' only option to hit 4th.

he is a crappy clean up hitter

.269 in 2011 & .239 in 2010

He shined in the leadoff hole last season hitting .350

[Todd Gack]

Originally Posted by texasdave

Well it simply isn't logical to try to defend someone by attacking others. Sorry if you can't see that.

My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.

[Joesh]

Just got home, I predicted the Reds would have 0 runs. I am some sort of genius

[Krawhitham]

Originally Posted by The Rage

Maybe we shouldn't have traded Francisco.

.263 2hr 4rbi

[Who Dey Time]

Originally Posted by Joesh

Just got home, I predicted the Reds would have 0 runs. I am some sort of genius

Did you also predict that grass is green?

[Joesh]

Originally Posted by Who Dey Time

Did you also predict that grass is green?

I didn't want to go out on that far of a limb, only wanted to make a safe bet

[New York Red]

Originally Posted by texasdave

So then you have no logic. Which is fine.

Haha, it appears we have a slightly moody Dave tonight. Relax, buddy, we still have 150 games left. Hopefully not 150 like this one though.

[Krawhitham]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.

mainly because Hi-C had 4 more HR and 6 more RBI in 325 less at bats than Stubbs last season

[New York Red]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.

They might have a similar K rate, but they aren't similar players.

[Todd Gack]

Originally Posted by New York Red

They might have a similar K rate, but they aren't similar players.

Isn't the only reason people hate Stubbs is because he K's so much?

[Falcon7]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

My point is that Stubbs and Heisey are essentially the same people and yet Heisey doesn't get the same flack because, for some reason, Reds fans like him.

Heisey is a good PH and has some pop.
Stubbs has totally lost his power. If he fouls one or hits a dribbler, that's more than I expect...

[Krawhitham]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

Isn't the only reason people hate Stubbs is because he K's so much?

and the fact he only had 4hr and 12 RBI while hitting .233 in the 2nd half last season