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Old 04-20-2012, 03:40 PM   #91
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Just tuned in. Looks like Homer's line is 3 innings, none earned. Is he responsible for errors too?
That's where stats are not going to tell the story. Homer had two outs and was sitting at 0-2 on DeJesus. He then proceeded to try to blow him away with his "gas", got to 3-2 and offered up a marshmallow to DeJesus who turned it into a single. Homer doesn't do that, the rest of the inning doesn't happen.

He may not have been charged with the runs, but he had a hand in earning them.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:40 PM   #92
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I think he may have got a strawberry on that slide. He slid right on his knee.
Are you saying that he Stubbed his knee?
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:41 PM   #93
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Are you saying that he Stubbed his knee?
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:41 PM   #94
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Are you saying that he Stubbed his knee?
Haha. Yes!
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:42 PM   #95
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Re: 4-20-2012 Reds vs Cubs

I tend to overreact when Homer Bailey's on the mound. Good and bad. It's a bad habit I'm trying to fix, haha.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:42 PM   #96
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Another way to look at this is that the pitcher is aware that the wind will keep the ball in play so you are free to attack the plate, get the ball over, and trust the defense to make plays if the ball is hit.
I agree... If I were pitching today, I would be throwing up in the zone and daring guys to hit it. Homer gets griped about for nibbling... That last inning lasted about 8 pitches. The 2nd inning was 8-10 pitches and the 1st inning would have been 10-12 pitches without the error. He looks like he's pitching to the conditions and telling the Cubs to take their hacks.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:47 PM   #97
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Re: 4-20-2012 Reds vs Cubs

Volstad at 90 pitches.
Homer at 60.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:47 PM   #98
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Man, it looks to like Homer can't win sometimes... If Leake were pitching today, people would be lauding him for pitching to the conditions. The guy has been pretty solid today IMO... Some very quick pitch efficient innings today.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:48 PM   #99
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No. Heisey misplayed a ball to the wall in LF. If the wind wasn't blowing in though it would have been a homer IMO.
Thanks. Just wondered how much Homer was actually responsible and how much was the usual criticism of Homer RZ stuff.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:51 PM   #100
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That's where stats are not going to tell the story. Homer had two outs and was sitting at 0-2 on DeJesus. He then proceeded to try to blow him away with his "gas", got to 3-2 and offered up a marshmallow to DeJesus who turned it into a single. Homer doesn't do that, the rest of the inning doesn't happen.

He may not have been charged with the runs, but he had a hand in earning them.
Don't really agree. If someone like Votto were at the plate, we'd be talking about what a great AB it was, battling back like that, getting a two out hit.

I guess it boils down to point of view. Is is the pitcher's fault or the skill of the batter?
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:52 PM   #101
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Don't really agree. If someone like Votto were at the plate, we'd be talking about what a great AB it was, battling back like that, getting a two out hit.

I guess it boils down to point of view. Is is the pitcher's fault or the skill of the batter?
You didn't see the pitches. It was obvious Homer was overthrowing.

Interpret what you want, everyone has an agenda. The following pitch to Castro was as fat a curve as Starlin will ever see.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:55 PM   #102
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Even with the run allowed that inning, Homer only threw 11 pitches. He's at 71 through 5, with 48 of them for strikes.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:55 PM   #103
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Interpret what you want, everyone has an agenda.
Agenda call out? Really?
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:56 PM   #104
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Ah crap. I have to buy a lottery ticket now.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:57 PM   #105
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