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Old 05-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #121
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Get Homer out of there......he has nothing
actually his fast ball is topping out at 95 tonight...good stuff actually. But Arroyo proved again last night you throw fast for show...you actually pitch for dough!!

Homer needs to learn how to actually pitch in the big leagues. He's been a big league pitcher since 2008...he is what he is.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #122
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bailey a thrower not a pitcher
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #123
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Again, I think the blame lies on both. Both of them should be smart enough to understand the situation, at the very least one of them should. In that case neither were.

If Rickie Weeks beats you so be it, you gotta make him do it instead of Braun.
They go over how to work every hitter before the game. I am sure they can ask Price between innings. It shouldn't be that hard.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #124
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Bailey does not pitch smart...never really has. Has better than average stuff, below average brains. an 0-2 pitch right down the middle with the bases loaded....really?
This time it was a Curveball that just floated over the middle of the plate. You're right. Homer does not pitch smart. Never has, which makes me think that he never will. Talent isn't enough to pitch well in the Majors. You have to pitch smart. If Bailey doesn't get it this year, I don't think the REDS are going to keep him after this. What else can they teach him at this point? It's on him to wake up and not pitch like an idiot.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #125
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Except then Arroyo gets rocked 3 straight starts.........

Bailey is a notorious slow starter. He struggles to hold his stuff early in the year and is breaking stuff is erratic. See 2006,2009. Then it comes together.

Plus these are meaningless spring games.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:06 PM   #126
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bailey a thrower not a pitcher
Yup, and he isn't throwing well. Throw well, problem solved. Alot of good "pitchers" are great throwers first.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:06 PM   #127
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bailey a thrower not a pitcher
no - he's definitely a pitcher, with great pitches too

it's on management for not giving him the coaching necessary to teach him what to do in situations like this
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:07 PM   #128
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We want a pitcher, not a glass of water.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:08 PM   #129
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Mesoraco has no understanding how to get big leaguers out which, being a rookie, I understand.

Doesn't help to catch a guy that has zero confidence in his own ability either.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:09 PM   #130
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They go over how to work every hitter before the game. I am sure they can ask Price between innings. It shouldn't be that hard.
You know that could be it, that they're just sticking to the gameplan. That's not a terrible thing but I just think that you pitch to the situation there, not the gameplan.
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Mesoraco has no understanding how to get big leaguers out which, being a rookie, I understand.

Doesn't help to catch a guy that has zero confidence in his own ability either.
hitting the nail on the head
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no - he's definitely a pitcher, with great pitches too

it's on management for not giving him the coaching necessary to teach him what to do in situations like this
He's an adult. A big league pitcher. There comes a point that you have to do it. This is not little league. He has the ball in his hands. Leake is younger, smarter, and does not have nearly the arm Bailey has. Leake has gotten the message...Bailey has not.
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Ludwick....washed up?
Never was any good. Certainly isn't any good now.
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:10 PM   #134
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Our left fielder has hit three HR tonight (for Texas)....Hamilton now has 13 HR's
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:11 PM   #135
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Mes has all of the tools and I think he's gonna be really good. Calling the game and handling our pitching staff is the kind of thing that will have to come with experience.
Takes at least two years.
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