6/18/12: Reds @ Indians--Lowe vs. Latos Round II

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

Well.... numbers are nice....and all that peripheral stuff that will tell you what a guy can be....but good old fashion scouting of what a guy's makeup is could have really helped in making this trade.

I think his maturity was debated here right after the trade. Seems like he needs some growing up. Maybe they were so anxious to get rid of Edinson and Alonso that they just wanted to make a deal .

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

I think his maturity was debated here right after the trade. Seems like he needs some growing up. Maybe they were so anxious to get rid of Edinson and Alonso that they just wanted to make a deal .

Also, it is pure conjecture that his wife's excuses involve him.

[Tony Cloninger]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Not sure that's fair. He got lit up tonight and I saw him in the dugout, still in uniform instead of going into the clubhouse, showering and pouting for two hours. That showed me a lot tonight.

That was cool that he stayed around......and not going to just say it was a bad trade yet at all....but you expect better than this.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
16. Brandon Phillips - 133
18. Joey Votto - 132
19. Reggie Sanders - 125
20. Ernie Lombardi - 120
21. Sean Casey - 118
22. Jay Bruce - 116
23. Frank McCormick - 110
24. Dave Parker - 107
25. Chris Sabo - 104
26. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Big Klu]

double post

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Also, it is pure conjecture that his wife's excuses involve him.

Maybe she is the immature one? Beats me. I try not to pay any attention to her. Always talking about drinking and all that.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

That was cool that he stayed around......and not going to just say it was a bad trade yet at all....but you expect better than this.

Of course, I'm frustrated that most of our high scoring games have involved him like you. He needs to figure out the adjustment. But I see absolutely no evidence of attitude issues from the limited evidence I have to go on, like dugout shots, the way he acts on the mound. I mean, you don't hear him blaming folks.

Tonight, I probably would have gotten thrown out when the ump's not giving me the inside corner on nice backup fastballs that I need to keep from happening exactly what did happen. He kept his cool and couldn't keep them off his 4 seamer, which they just sat on. It was obviously one of those nights, whatever the reason, but he's been involved in too many of them. But, if he's not hurt, I'm leaning towards he's gonna go all R.A. Dickey at some point this season. Hopefully its during an important time in the season.

[Tony Cloninger]

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

Maybe she is the immature one? Beats me. I try not to pay any attention to her. Always talking about drinking and all that.

She's making the wife of that ex-Pirate pitcher look like Betty Crocker.

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

She's making the wife of that ex-Pirate pitcher look like Betty Crocker.

Agreed.

My favorite tweet was the one at 10:00 AM where she was wondering what to drink that day. Asked for suggestions.

She started or tried to start a Reds drinking game on Twitter. Listen, I drink and I'm not a moralist by any means, but I think we can see what we're dealing with here. Two very immature people. Let's hope they grow up and represent the Reds properly.

Sorry for the rant.

[TheNext44]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Stealing signs? So be smarter than the one stealing the signs and change the signs.

Real concern about Latos is....where is the slider? I do not remember seeing one tonight. Guys with barking arms sometimes quit throwing the slider because of pain. I sure hope he is not hurt, but he has not been the FB/slider guy we traded for.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...s-stole-signs/

Stealings signs is a big deal, against the rules, and it seems like th Indians were guilty of it tonight. Latos and Hanigan did change signs when they realized it was happening, but then, as usual with stealing signs, it was too late.

Can't fault the Indians, every team tries to do it. As long as it was actual Indian players either on the bench or on base, I'm fine with it, part of the game.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

Agreed.

My favorite tweet was the one at 10:00 AM where she was wondering what to drink that day. Asked for suggestions.

She started or tried to start a Reds drinking game on Twitter. Listen, I drink and I'm not a moralist by any means, but I think we can see what we're dealing with here. Two very immature people. Let's hope they grow up and represent the Reds properly.

Sorry for the rant.

24 years old and not mature? Heathens!

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by traderumor

24 years old and not mature? Heathens!

Yeah. Sometimes I forget what a geezer I am. I remember when I was 24, but I'm not telling any stories...

P.S. She's 25, as if that makes a difference