Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

fearofpopvol1 · 07-01-2012, 05:07 PM

I know, it's early, but they're both essentially rookies, both born in 1988. Grandal went to Miami, Mesoraco signed out of high school. The Reds obviously bet on Mesoraco, but he has struggled in the bigs so far (albeit it is a small sample size).

If you're a betting person, who would you bet on?

Joseph · 07-01-2012, 05:07 PM

Gotta go with the brass here and say Mes.

dougdirt · 07-01-2012, 05:09 PM

Mesoraco. He is a catcher, without a doubt. Has more power.

kaldaniels · 07-01-2012, 05:10 PM

Could go either way, but I would say Mes. I believe I have seen where Grandal doesn't project long term at C. If that is wrong correct me.

dougdirt · 07-01-2012, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Could go either way, but I would say Mes. I believe I have seen where Grandal doesn't project long term at C. If that is wrong correct me.

There is a chance, but it isn't a sure thing either.

Kc61 · 07-01-2012, 05:52 PM

Not voting, I have no idea.

Mes has a good arm, I like that, even if so far he's allowed his share of steals. He caught many losses early, that has turned around.

Mes also is a patient hitter. One of the few Reds righty hitters who doesn't lunge after bad pitches. Has power.

My own view is that Mes probably could have used another year at AAA, but I like what I see so far.

DGullett35 · 07-01-2012, 06:06 PM

I think both will have nice careers. I like how Mes is concentrating on his D and the pitchers right now which is what he should be doing. I feel that his bat will come around but it will probably be next year before we see him to start to rake. I also agree that a full year in AAA this year is probably what Mes needed. I look for 2013 to be a big year for him.

bellhead · 07-01-2012, 06:09 PM

Mes.. without a doubt, there are thoughts he could be a future #4 middle of the order guy.

Tom Servo · 07-01-2012, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellhead

Mes.. without a doubt, there are thoughts he could be a future #4 middle of the order guy.

Would be fantastic to have a 3-4-5 for years to come of Votto-Mesoraco-Bruce.

BearcatShane · 07-01-2012, 09:59 PM

I'm gonna have to go with Grandal. At least offensively. I think this guy is going to be a star.

RedsManRick · 07-02-2012, 01:46 AM

I voted Mes, but was very ambivalent. I really don't see what others do in Mesoraco's defense. It seems like he's constantly dropping pitches, isn't very still and just generally isn't a reliable target.

WildcatFan · 07-02-2012, 09:48 AM

I voted Grandal, but with the caveat that his better career won't be as a catcher. I see him as a very solid slugging third baseman.

mdccclxix · 07-02-2012, 10:57 AM

The question still has no answer. After both their MLB debuts Grandal and Mez are not what they appear to be this early on. I've always felt Grandal had a better pedigree and higher floor than Mez, but we'll see how things play out. Mez just doesn't barrel the ball often enough right now and part of that is the PT he's getting. Who knows, this 40/60 split may last until next year as well...until when in 2014 26 year old Mez hits 45 bombs and wins an MVP...hell yeah!

Reds/Flyers Fan · 07-02-2012, 11:54 AM

No clue. But Mes needs to play more.

MikeS21 · 07-02-2012, 12:54 PM

I won't even try to guess which one will have the better career. As others have said:

1. Mes needs more playing time NOW. I do not buy the argument that "He needs to earn more at bats." If he played 4 out of 5 games, his bat would secure him into the 4 hole f the batting order.

2. Grandal may be moved to another position. I felt that would have happened had he remained in the Reds' organization. He could have developed into a 3B or a LF.

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Mesoraco	49	72.06%
Grandal	19	27.94%
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07-01-2012, 05:07 PM	#1
fearofpopvol1 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 8,634	Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? I know, it's early, but they're both essentially rookies, both born in 1988. Grandal went to Miami, Mesoraco signed out of high school. The Reds obviously bet on Mesoraco, but he has struggled in the bigs so far (albeit it is a small sample size). If you're a betting person, who would you bet on?

07-01-2012, 05:07 PM	#2
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,123	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? Gotta go with the brass here and say Mes. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

07-01-2012, 05:09 PM	#3
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,738	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? Mesoraco. He is a catcher, without a doubt. Has more power. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

07-01-2012, 05:52 PM	#6
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,838	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? Not voting, I have no idea. Mes has a good arm, I like that, even if so far he's allowed his share of steals. He caught many losses early, that has turned around. Mes also is a patient hitter. One of the few Reds righty hitters who doesn't lunge after bad pitches. Has power. My own view is that Mes probably could have used another year at AAA, but I like what I see so far.

07-01-2012, 05:10 PM	#4
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,330	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? Could go either way, but I would say Mes. I believe I have seen where Grandal doesn't project long term at C. If that is wrong correct me.

07-01-2012, 06:06 PM	#7
DGullett35 Have Faith In Dusty Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: O-H-I-O Posts: 712	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? I think both will have nice careers. I like how Mes is concentrating on his D and the pitchers right now which is what he should be doing. I feel that his bat will come around but it will probably be next year before we see him to start to rake. I also agree that a full year in AAA this year is probably what Mes needed. I look for 2013 to be a big year for him. __________________ "Losing feels worse than winning feels good." -Vin Scully

07-01-2012, 06:09 PM	#8
bellhead Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 559	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? Mes.. without a doubt, there are thoughts he could be a future #4 middle of the order guy.

07-01-2012, 09:59 PM	#10
BearcatShane Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cincinnati/Colerain Posts: 1,247	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? I'm gonna have to go with Grandal. At least offensively. I think this guy is going to be a star. __________________ Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/ShaneHorning

07-02-2012, 01:46 AM	#11
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? I voted Mes, but was very ambivalent. I really don't see what others do in Mesoraco's defense. It seems like he's constantly dropping pitches, isn't very still and just generally isn't a reliable target. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

07-02-2012, 09:48 AM	#12
WildcatFan Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 921	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? I voted Grandal, but with the caveat that his better career won't be as a catcher. I see him as a very solid slugging third baseman. __________________ "I never argue with people who say baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski 2013 Attendance Record 1-0 (4/3 Angels 5-4)

07-02-2012, 10:57 AM	#13
mdccclxix Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,660	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? The question still has no answer. After both their MLB debuts Grandal and Mez are not what they appear to be this early on. I've always felt Grandal had a better pedigree and higher floor than Mez, but we'll see how things play out. Mez just doesn't barrel the ball often enough right now and part of that is the PT he's getting. Who knows, this 40/60 split may last until next year as well...until when in 2014 26 year old Mez hits 45 bombs and wins an MVP...hell yeah!

07-02-2012, 11:54 AM	#14
Reds/Flyers Fan Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cincinnati USA Posts: 3,320	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? No clue. But Mes needs to play more.

07-02-2012, 12:54 PM	#15
MikeS21 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,653	Re: Who will have the better career -- Mesoraco or Grandal? I won't even try to guess which one will have the better career. As others have said: 1. Mes needs more playing time NOW. I do not buy the argument that "He needs to earn more at bats." If he played 4 out of 5 games, his bat would secure him into the 4 hole f the batting order. 2. Grandal may be moved to another position. I felt that would have happened had he remained in the Reds' organization. He could have developed into a 3B or a LF. __________________ Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one, and they don't want someone else's shoved into their face.

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