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VottoFan54 · 08-03-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

You can't blame fans for assuming, without a shred of evidence, that someone was intentionally throwing a 102 MPH baseball at someone on purpose?

A 102 MPH fastball near the head in the ninth inning with 2 outs on their best player, Is it really a stretch to say that was on purpose? I guess I just have a hard time believing that he just happened to hit a batter at the worst time for the Pirates.

GullyFoyle · 08-03-2012, 10:09 PM

If anybody sees a clip of McCutchen in the dugout afterwards, I'd love to see it. MLB cut the game off very quickly.

Brutus · 08-03-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VottoFan54

A 102 MPH fastball near the head in the ninth inning with 2 outs on their best player, Is it really a stretch to say that was on purpose? I guess I just have a hard time believing that he just happened to hit a batter at the worst time for the Pirates.

I don't think it's a stretch to say he was trying to brush McCutchen off the plate. He's known for being right up on the plate, so sure I wouldn't at all be surprised he was trying to brush him back. But there's a huge difference trying to pitch inside to knock a guy back and actually trying to hit him with malice intent.

Vottomatic · 08-03-2012, 10:17 PM

Geez, score some runs and you don't have to face Chapman in the 9th.

membengal · 08-03-2012, 10:17 PM

That is, quite literally, the kind of pitch that Bob Gibson never hesitated to throw. Ever.

VottoFan54 · 08-03-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

I don't think it's a stretch to say he was trying to brush McCutchen off the plate. He's known for being right up on the plate, so sure I wouldn't at all be surprised he was trying to brush him back. But there's a huge difference trying to pitch inside to knock a guy back and actually trying to hit him with malice intent.

Once again, if a team did that to Votto, Redszone would be upset about it. If you are going to brush a guy off the plate, a 102 MPH fastball is not neccessary.

cincrazy · 08-03-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VottoFan54

Once again, if a team did that to Votto, Redszone would be upset about it. If you are going to brush a guy off the plate, a 102 MPH fastball is not neccessary.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I agree with you. I think it's a bush league move. Between the somersaults, the speeding tickets, the girl tied up in his hotel room, and now this, it's been quite the interesting year for Chapman.

WMR · 08-03-2012, 10:21 PM

Pirates fans?

You almost had me going for a second there.

Brutus · 08-03-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VottoFan54

Once again, if a team did that to Votto, Redszone would be upset about it. If you are going to brush a guy off the plate, a 102 MPH fastball is not neccessary.

I think you're painting with a broad brush. Would some people on Redszone be upset? Maybe. But would everyone or most on Redszone be upset? I doubt that.

I wouldn't be, personally (unless it were a Tony LaRussa-managed Cardinals' team then I would for the sake of hating them).

cincrazy · 08-03-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

I think you're painting with a broad brush. Would some people on Redszone be upset? Maybe. But would everyone or most on Redszone be upset? I doubt that.

I wouldn't be, personally.

Dusty would be upset. Just ask Derek Lowe

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wolfboy · 08-03-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

I know I'm in the minority here, but I agree with you. I think it's a bush league move. Between the somersaults, the speeding tickets, the girl tied up in his hotel room, and now this, it's been quite the interesting year for Chapman.

Give me a break.

VottoFan54 · 08-03-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

I think you're painting with a broad brush. Would some people on Redszone be upset? Maybe. But would everyone or most on Redszone be upset? I doubt that.

I wouldn't be, personally (unless it were a Tony LaRussa-managed Cardinals' team then I would for the sake of hating them).

Obviously not all of RZ would be mad in that situation, I guess we will have to disagree on how many people would be upset. When you are throwing a brushback pitch, is a 102 MPH fastball necessary?

Virginia Beach Reds · 08-03-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

Maybe "Cutch" should worry about backing up the LFer rather than complaining about getting hit.

YES. That cost them a run.

dman · 08-03-2012, 10:31 PM

I posted about this in tonight's game thread, but I'll say the same thing here. I don't think even for the slightest that Chapman was trying to hit Cutch... I even have doubts he was trying to brush him back... I think it was simply a fastball that got away from him.

I do believe that there will be some attempt at retribution in this series though, especially if Hanrahan comes in to pitch.

Hanrahan did that to the Reds in 2010 when Mike Leake hit Cutch with a changeup by hitting a Reds batter the very next inning... He may have even hit Mike Leake. At any rate, sometime this weekend I'd count on a Reds hitter getting nailed by a pitch.

BuckeyeRedleg · 08-03-2012, 10:31 PM

Three words.

Kimo von Oelhoffen.

"Pirate" fans (LOL) can zip it and put their Big Ben jerseys back on.

08-03-2012, 10:17 PM	#19
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,787	Re: Pirates fans are livid Geez, score some runs and you don't have to face Chapman in the 9th. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

08-03-2012, 10:17 PM	#20
membengal Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 8,379	Re: Pirates fans are livid That is, quite literally, the kind of pitch that Bob Gibson never hesitated to throw. Ever.

08-03-2012, 10:31 PM	#29
dman Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 1,385	Re: Pirates fans are livid I posted about this in tonight's game thread, but I'll say the same thing here. I don't think even for the slightest that Chapman was trying to hit Cutch... I even have doubts he was trying to brush him back... I think it was simply a fastball that got away from him. I do believe that there will be some attempt at retribution in this series though, especially if Hanrahan comes in to pitch. Hanrahan did that to the Reds in 2010 when Mike Leake hit Cutch with a changeup by hitting a Reds batter the very next inning... He may have even hit Mike Leake. At any rate, sometime this weekend I'd count on a Reds hitter getting nailed by a pitch.

08-03-2012, 10:31 PM	#30
BuckeyeRedleg Will post for food Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dublin, OH Posts: 5,090	Re: Pirates fans are livid Three words. Kimo von Oelhoffen. "Pirate" fans (LOL) can zip it and put their Big Ben jerseys back on.

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08-03-2012, 10:09 PM	#17
GullyFoyle Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 481	If anybody sees a clip of McCutchen in the dugout afterwards, I'd love to see it. MLB cut the game off very quickly.