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Old 11-29-2011, 07:33 PM   #1
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Red Sox to hire Valentine

After two years of speculation of being the next Marlins, Orioles and other team's managers, Bobby Valentine has found a home. It's being reported that the Boston Red Sox and Valentine have agreed to terms that would make Valentine the Red Sox's 45th manager in team history. The 61-year-old Valentine is currently in Japan for personal business but should return soon.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:44 PM   #2
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...ed-sox-manager

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Bobby Valentine, an analyst for ESPN, will be the next manager of the Boston Red Sox, a source close to the team said Tuesday night.

Valentine was offered the job Tuesday and accepted it. Valentine, who appeared at a charity event in Japan on Monday, is scheduled to fly back home at midnight ET Wednesday.

Earlier Tuesday, a source told ESPN that Gene Lamont, the other finalist for the job, was no longer a candidate.

The Boston Globe reported via Twitter that the Red Sox denied that Lamont is out of the running.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:13 PM   #3
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine

Read an article about Bobby V the other day that suggested he's not well liked by many people in baseball, due to his arrogance and drama. It will be interesting to see how things work out.

That said, he'll probably be hailed as a genius when the Red Sox win 95 games next year on the back of regression.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:31 PM   #4
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine

Will they let him wear the beard in the dugout?
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:50 PM   #5
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Read an article about Bobby V the other day that suggested he's not well liked by many people in baseball, due to his arrogance and drama. It will be interesting to see how things work out.

That said, he'll probably be hailed as a genius when the Red Sox win 95 games next year on the back of regression.
Sounds like a perfect fit when you put it like that.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:59 PM   #6
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I bet the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry will take on an even more volatile air with the "arrogant and dramatic" Valentine at the helm of the Sox. Could be fun.
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Old 11-30-2011, 02:33 AM   #7
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine

Sunday night baseball just got a whole lot better. Hope they leave the crew alone.
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:46 PM   #8
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Mutiny at Fenway?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...month/related/

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According to Passan players “blasted Valentine to owners John Henry and Larry Lucchino during a heated meeting called after a text message was sent by a group of frustrated players to the team and ownership in late July.”
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:49 PM   #9
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http://www.chatterfromthedugout.com/..._crybabies.htm

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In June some of the veteran players met and decided to go to club president, Alva Bradley, and ask “that nasty little man” be fired. Feller joined the mutineers, Mack and Boudreau did not. They defeated the Tigers at home 3-2 in 11 innings as sportswriter Gordon Cobbledick of the Cleveland Plain Dealer broke the story on the team rebellion. One called it bigger news than the fall of Paris to the Germans. Bradley told his players that there would be no immediate change in managers, and never supported either his ballplayers or manager. Vitt immediately called a clubhouse meeting claiming, “I am the manager. Let’s go out and play ball.” It was about that time when the term “Cleveland Crybabies” was born.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:29 PM   #10
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They sent a text message? Wow.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:41 PM   #11
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In June some of the veteran players met and decided to go to club president, Alva Bradley, and ask “that nasty little man” be fired. Feller joined the mutineers, Mack and Boudreau did not. They defeated the Tigers at home 3-2 in 11 innings as sportswriter Gordon Cobbledick of the Cleveland Plain Dealer broke the story on the team rebellion. One called it bigger news than the fall of Paris to the Germans. Bradley told his players that there would be no immediate change in managers, and never supported either his ballplayers or manager. Vitt immediately called a clubhouse meeting claiming, “I am the manager. Let’s go out and play ball.” It was about that time when the term “Cleveland Crybabies” was born.

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Old 08-14-2012, 06:43 PM   #12
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They sent a text message? Wow.
No kidding. As for player's getting all worked up about him leaving in Lester to give up 11 runs, unless Lester was hurt, something tells me their worrying about the guy. I can't imagine there are many scenarios where players are happy with the manager of a team that is significantly under-performing -- and its not like Valentine is to blame for their injuries.

For all I know, Valentine is a horrible manager to play for; it's certainly his reputation. And the Passan aticle cites some things that read like gross mismanagement. And for those things, he may very well deserve to be fired.

But we all take issue with out boss sometimes. There are ways to handle that. Those ways don't include texting the CEO and telling him/her that I don't want to come in to work anymore. If one of us did that, we'd probably get fired.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:08 PM   #13
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This is the least informed opinion possible, but..

I don't really condone what the players did, but, judging by the bits and pieces we see in public, I don't see how anyone could spend 5 minutes with Valentine and not come away wanting to get as far away from him as possible.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:36 PM   #14
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No way I'd want Valentine as manager of our team here in Cincinnati but I'm sure ownership knew what they were getting. Players have "rebelled" against Tom Coughlin in NY before but that worked out all right.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:44 PM   #15
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Players have "rebelled" against Tom Coughlin in NY before but that worked out all right.
Tiki Barber retired, Shockey was let go and without his two amigos, Strahan fell into line. Sometimes you have to clear out the troublemakers in the lockerroom.
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