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-The Insider-
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Red Sox to hire Valentine
After two years of speculation of being the next Marlins, Orioles and other team's managers, Bobby Valentine has found a home. It's being reported that the Boston Red Sox and Valentine have agreed to terms that would make Valentine the Red Sox's 45th manager in team history. The 61-year-old Valentine is currently in Japan for personal business but should return soon.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New England
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...ed-sox-manager
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
Read an article about Bobby V the other day that suggested he's not well liked by many people in baseball, due to his arrogance and drama. It will be interesting to see how things work out.
That said, he'll probably be hailed as a genius when the Red Sox win 95 games next year on the back of regression.
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Maple SERP
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
Will they let him wear the beard in the dugout?
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
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Matt's Dad
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
I bet the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry will take on an even more volatile air with the "arrogant and dramatic" Valentine at the helm of the Sox. Could be fun.
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: the corner bar
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
Sunday night baseball just got a whole lot better. Hope they leave the crew alone.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dayton
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
Mutiny at Fenway?
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...month/related/ Quote:
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: PDX
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
http://www.chatterfromthedugout.com/..._crybabies.htm
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Box of Frogs
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: NJ
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
They sent a text message? Wow.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cincinnati USA
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
No kidding. As for player's getting all worked up about him leaving in Lester to give up 11 runs, unless Lester was hurt, something tells me their worrying about the guy. I can't imagine there are many scenarios where players are happy with the manager of a team that is significantly under-performing -- and its not like Valentine is to blame for their injuries.
For all I know, Valentine is a horrible manager to play for; it's certainly his reputation. And the Passan aticle cites some things that read like gross mismanagement. And for those things, he may very well deserve to be fired. But we all take issue with out boss sometimes. There are ways to handle that. Those ways don't include texting the CEO and telling him/her that I don't want to come in to work anymore. If one of us did that, we'd probably get fired.
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Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance. Last edited by RedsManRick; 08-14-2012 at 06:46 PM. |
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The Big Dog
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
This is the least informed opinion possible, but..
I don't really condone what the players did, but, judging by the bits and pieces we see in public, I don't see how anyone could spend 5 minutes with Valentine and not come away wanting to get as far away from him as possible.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 15,255
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
No way I'd want Valentine as manager of our team here in Cincinnati but I'm sure ownership knew what they were getting. Players have "rebelled" against Tom Coughlin in NY before but that worked out all right.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New Jersey, USA
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Re: Red Sox to hire Valentine
Tiki Barber retired, Shockey was let go and without his two amigos, Strahan fell into line. Sometimes you have to clear out the troublemakers in the lockerroom.
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