2013: Looking ahead

[cinreds21]

You guys know I love to look ahead. Since the minor league season ends in two weeks I thought we could start looking into next year.

First off, fringe guys who will be out of options:
Todd Redmond
Jordan Smith
Chris Valaika

Players eligible for Rule V draft:
Daniel Corcino
Yorman Rodriguez
Nick Christiani
Juan Duran
Mark Fleury
Josh Fellhauer
Tim Crabbe
Mark Serrano
Ismael Guillon
Brian Pearl

Then upcoming Free Agents:

AAA
Carlos Fisher
Sean Gallagher
Tim Gustafson
Chad Reineke
Tanekoa Texeira
Travis Webb
Corky Miller
Brian Peacock
Mike Costanzo
Willie Harris

Double-A
Wilkin De La Rosa
Michael Griffin
Wirfin Obispo
Josh Ravin
Beau Mills
PJ Phillips
Miguel Rojas



I would not be surprised if Bray or Masset were non-tendered. If they come back and deal in September than maybe not, but I don't think they "need" them at what they would cost.

So, from there:

Louisville:
SP Pedro Villarreal
SP Daniel Corcino
SP Tony Cingrani
SP FA
SP FA

RP-Manno
RP-Freeman
RP-Hayes
RP-Christiani
RP-Josh Judy
RP-Andrew Brackman
RP- FA (LH?)
RP- FA

C-FA/Corky
1B-Soto
2B-Negron (will be ready for spring training)
3B-Rodriguez
SS-Didi
LF-LaMarre
CF-Phipps
RF-Perez

Bench
Fellhauer
Puckett
FA OF
FA C


I haven't followed Double-A or lower as much this year so I wouldn't feel confident predicting them as much so feel free to continue it. Go!

[dougdirt]

Ismael Guillon is also eligible for the Rule 5.

[cinreds21]

Thanks Doug. An intersting thing about Guillon:

His original contract with Cincinnati was voided due to an injury so:

"Because he signed a second contract with his original team, Guillon will be eligible for the Rule V draft every year until he's added to the 40-man roster."

[mth123]

40 Man Spots that should come open

1. Rolen
2. Cairo
3. Navarro
4. Negron
5. Smith
6. Valaika

Potential Non-Tenders
1. Bill Bray
2. Wilson Valdez

40 Man Adds
1. Masset
2. Corcino
3. Y-Rod
4. Duran
5. Christiani

Plenty of room on the 40 man.

[Kc61]

Pretty sure Massett signed a two year contract. He's signed for next year. Not a non-tender candidate.

[mth123]

Originally Posted by Kc61

Pretty sure Massett signed a two year contract. He's signed for next year. Not a non-tender candidate.

Correct.

[camisadelgolf]

Free agent/non-tendered/declined option/out of options:
Luis Atilano
Drew Brackman
(?)Bill Bray
Jonathan Broxton
Miguel Cairo
Mike Costanzo
Wilkin De La Rosa
James Ewing
Carlos Fisher
Sean Gallagher
Mike Griffin
Tim Gustafson
Willie Harris
Josh Judy
(?)Ryan Ludwick
Ryan Madson
Corky Miller
Dioner Navarro
Wirfin Obispo
Will Ohman
Brian Peacock
P.J. Phillips
Josh Ravin
Todd Redmond
Chad Reineke
Miguel Rojas
Scott Rolen
Jordan Smith
Kanekoa Texeira
Chris Valaika
(?)Wilson Valdez
Niko Vasquez
Travis Webb

Eligible for the rule 5 draft:
Jesus Adames
Junior Arias
Theo Bowe
Nick Christiani
Carlos Contreras
Dan Corcino
Jonathan Correa
Tim Crabbe
Juan Duran
Wilfrel Estevez
Josh Fellhauer
Mark Fleury
Justin Freeman
Stalin Gerson
Yovan Gonzalez
Ismael Guillon
Blaine Howell
Travis Mattair
Andrew Means
Beau Mills
Curt Partch
Brian Pearl
Cody Puckett
Radhames Quezada
Yorman Rodriguez
Mark Serrano
Jefry Sierra
Danny Vicioso
Jamie Walczak

[JaxRed]

I'd be very surprised if Christiani was added to 40 man roster

[klw]

As much potential as they have, I don't know that I see anyone being able to stash Y-rod or Duran on their 25 man roster for long enough to keep them. (Unless Houston is going for 130 losses next year)

[RedsManRick]

So who are the guys who are legit options to be lost due to Rule V?

(e.g. we all know Corcino will be protected and Guillon, Duran and YRod are too far off to be drafted and held on to for a whole season)

A few guys that seem like possibilities to me:
- Serrano
- Fellhauer
- Puckett
- Mills (not a minor league FA?)

[Benihana]

Originally Posted by RedsManRick

So who are the guys who are legit options to be lost due to Rule V?

(e.g. we all know Corcino will be protected and Guillon, Duran and YRod are too far off to be drafted and held on to for a whole season)

A few guys that seem like possibilities to me:
- Serrano
- Fellhauer
- Puckett
- Mills (not a minor league FA?)

Maybe Brian Pearl? Despite his 7 ERA in AA.

I won't do lineups for now but here is my best guess of the moment as how the top of the minor league rotations could look next year:

Louisville
1. Corcino
2. Cingrani
3. Redmond
4. Villareal
5. Obispo

Pensacola
1. Lotzkar
2. Rogers
3. J.Smith
4. ?
5. ?

Bakersfield
1. Stephenson
2. J.Johnson
3. Quezada
4. Gerson
5. Allen

Dayton
1. Langfield (could also jump to A+ especially if Travieso and/or Garrett start in Dayton)
2. Guillon
3. Cisco
4. Moscot

Billings
1. Travieso? (could be in Dayton)
2. Garrett? (could be in Dayton)
3. P.Diaz
4. Felt

[Kc61]

Originally Posted by RedsManRick

So who are the guys who are legit options to be lost due to Rule V?

(e.g. we all know Corcino will be protected and Guillon, Duran and YRod are too far off to be drafted and held on to for a whole season)

A few guys that seem like possibilities to me:
- Serrano
- Fellhauer
- Puckett
- Mills (not a minor league FA?)

Would hate to lose Fellhauer. Looks like a good lefty BA hitter who could make the Reds in 2014 as a fourth or fifth outfielder. Type of bat the Reds could use.

FWIW, next season will be the year of Corcino and Cingrani. Can see spots opening up in Reds rotation by 2014 the latest. These two will be at AAA and will have an opportunity to become Reds starters depending on how they do.

[cinreds21]

Even though Yorman is so far off, I really don't see them leaving him off. Teams rarely do that to a "top" prospect.

To be honest, I think it'll be:
Corcino
Yorman
Christiani
Fellhauer
and the two maybes are Guillon and Pearl.

[19braves77]

Pensacola turn over should be high.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by cinreds21

Even though Yorman is so far off, I really don't see them leaving him off. Teams rarely do that to a "top" prospect.

To be honest, I think it'll be:
Corcino
Yorman
Christiani
Fellhauer
and the two maybes are Guillon and Pearl.

I would be surprised if they protected Christiani. 26 walks and 30 strikeouts in 65 innings simply doesn't do it for me. The ERA is good, but it is smoke and mirrors. I don't see them protecting Pearl either. If they can bring back Obispo and or Ravin, I could see both being protected. Both have strong arms and can hit 96 (or in Ravin's case, 99).