NFL Officiating

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by Hillsdale87

There was an NFL employee upstairs who didn't correct them either, so it's not just the replacement refs who messed up. It was a bad mistake, but it happened with the regular refs in 2009 too, so it's not unique to the replacement officials. Personally, I think the whole issue was overblown and that the refs did really well outside of that moment in the Arizona game.

Disclaimer: I can't stand listening to Joe Buck. I would rather listen to nails running across a chalk board than listen to him do a game.

That said it seemed like him and Aikman were eager to point out every flag that these were replacement refs only to show the replay and catch the penalty. They were a little flag happy in the GB SF game but as noted earlier that officiating group threw the most in preseason. Aside from the Arizona, Seattle game were there any other blatant errors? Were there any calls that made you scream "Get the regular officials back!"

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by Hillsdale87

There was an NFL employee upstairs who didn't correct them either, so it's not just the replacement refs who messed up. It was a bad mistake, but it happened with the regular refs in 2009 too, so it's not unique to the replacement officials. Personally, I think the whole issue was overblown and that the refs did really well outside of that moment in the Arizona game.

I agree, there's plenty of blame to go around and I'd love to hear how those discussions went but in the end it was the referee's call so he has to take the fall for it. If he thought the helmet counted as the ball, I'd can him for that too. Here there's no union to deal with so the NFL can handle this however they want. I'm thinking that they do not want the fans to to think that they're using refs that don't even know the NFL rulebook.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Disclaimer: I can't stand listening to Joe Buck. I would rather listen to nails running across a chalk board than listen to him do a game.

That said it seemed like him and Aikman were eager to point out every flag that these were replacement refs only to show the replay and catch the penalty. They were a little flag happy in the GB SF game but as noted earlier that officiating group threw the most in preseason. Aside from the Arizona, Seattle game were there any other blatant errors? Were there any calls that made you scream "Get the regular officials back!"

I thought Michaels and Colinsworth were way worse. They were relentless with it and almost had a mocking tone about bad calls. I thought it was a little out of line.

[bucksfan2]

Not that it mattered but the Bengals were victimized by two bad calls. The drop called on AJ Green and Boldin's TD that wasn't a catch.

There is a professionalism that the normal refs have over the current refs. They also have seen a number of replays that the current ones have not. It probably wouldn't have mattered but it sure would have been nice to see a call or two go the Bengals way last night.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Not that it mattered but the Bengals were victimized by two bad calls. The drop called on AJ Green and Boldin's TD that wasn't a catch.

There is a professionalism that the normal refs have over the current refs. They also have seen a number of replays that the current ones have not. It probably wouldn't have mattered but it sure would have been nice to see a call or two go the Bengals way last night.

No way the Bengals were going to compete last night unless those kind of calls went their way. We also got screwed on some PI calls

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Disclaimer: I can't stand listening to Joe Buck. I would rather listen to nails running across a chalk board than listen to him do a game.

That said it seemed like him and Aikman were eager to point out every flag that these were replacement refs only to show the replay and catch the penalty. They were a little flag happy in the GB SF game but as noted earlier that officiating group threw the most in preseason. Aside from the Arizona, Seattle game were there any other blatant errors? Were there any calls that made you scream "Get the regular officials back!"

The only one I really saw last night was the missed horse collar tackle on Run DMC. Which would have extended the first Raider drive I believe.

Aikman was probably just sticking up for the union, as he use to be (I dont know if retired players are still in) the NFLPA and I'm sure both unions try to stand up for the other when they can.

[Bob Sheed]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

In the big picture I'm fine with the NFL starving the regular ones for awhile

Why?

Owners and players not getting a big enough piece of the millions for you?



100's of millions of dollars in/out of this game... and they are using "replacements."

It all smacks of greed. As usual. Why do we lap this game up anyway?

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by Bob Sheed

Why?

Owners and players not getting a big enough piece of the millions for you?



100's of millions of dollars in/out of this game... and they are using "replacements."

It all smacks of greed. As usual. Why do we lap this game up anyway?

No question the NFL owners are filthy rich but you don't get to be filthy rich by giving millions away. It's really pretty simple:

The NFL holds the keys to the only way these officials can make $150K/yr. They have to work for the NFL in order to make that kind of jack. The games will go on without them. It won't affect ticket prices or the amount ESPN is shelling out to televise MNF. For that reason there's no point in giving in to their demands. Just let them sit out and lose paycheck after paycheck while the NFL rakes in money every week. It's amazing to me that the officials have a union to begin with

[Redsfaithful]

Blame it on the replacements or not, but the officiating has been god awful today, all over the league.

[757690]

Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

Blame it on the replacements or not, but the officiating has been god awful today, all over the league.

I can't watch these games. I love football, but the refs play too important part of the game for them to use guys this bad. I keep seeing games influenced by bad calls throughout the game, and as SeaRay pointed out, it's not judgement calls, it's not knowing the rules.

Seriously, I'm only watching baseball until this gets resolved.

[cincrazy]

I didn't want to jump on the "OMG THE REFS SUCK" train too quickly... but OMG THE REFS SUCK. Every big play the Bengals make, I hold my breath expecting it to be called back on a BS call.

[blumj]

I'm guessing just about everyone's watching the baseball game, including the refs in Baltimore.

[5TimeWSChamps]

Plays against New England that drive:

Defensive Holding when Torrey wasn't touched
Oher tackling a guy by the head - No call, screen pass for 30
Defensive holding when the Offensive guy held him on a sack
Offensive PI not called when Torrey Smith pushed off the DB

[wolfboy]

Originally Posted by 5TimeWSChamps

Plays against New England that drive:

Defensive Holding when Torrey wasn't touched
Oher tackling a guy by the head - No call, screen pass for 30
Defensive holding when the Offensive guy held him on a sack
Offensive PI not called when Torrey Smith pushed off the DB

Holy end of a game.

[5TimeWSChamps]

The refs literally held Flacco's hand the last two possessions.

What an absolute joke, and it absolute sucks, cause it's going to eff over the Bengals