RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > RedsZone > Game Threads
Reload this Page 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
About Us Chat Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 5 of 24 1234 5 678915 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-19-2012, 10:02 PM   #61
Tom Servo
thirsty and miserable
 
Tom Servo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NJ/NY
Posts: 5,608
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Yeesh.
__________________
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
Tom Servo is offline   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 09-19-2012, 10:02 PM   #62
The Operator
Moderator
 
The Operator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Carlisle, OH
Posts: 2,448
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Caught a break there...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
Don't worry. I'd say the game threads are about league average.
2013 Reds Record when I attend: 2-4
2012 Reds Record when I attend: 10-7
The Operator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:03 PM   #63
Matt700wlw
Making sense of it all
 
Matt700wlw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 26,149
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
This ain't Dusty's fault!
__________________
An excited shade of Red
Matt700wlw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:03 PM   #64
George Foster
1st pick 2022 B.B. draft
 
George Foster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ky
Posts: 5,853
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Someone should get benched after falling asleep on second base..horrible.
__________________
We got this...its our year....
George Foster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:03 PM   #65
Tony Cloninger
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,252
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Don't score runs......pitching good.... score runs, pitching bad. Most annoying thing to watch.
Tony Cloninger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:04 PM   #66
Tom Servo
thirsty and miserable
 
Tom Servo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NJ/NY
Posts: 5,608
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
This ain't Dusty's fault!
True, but one would think after a while that he'd catch on to the usual song and dance of Leake and have a quicker hook.
__________________
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
Tom Servo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:04 PM   #67
George Foster
1st pick 2022 B.B. draft
 
George Foster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ky
Posts: 5,853
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
Don't score runs......pitching good.... score runs, pitching bad. Most annoying thing to watch.
Leake not pitching bad....the Cubs ran into some balls. Should be 5-3...Heisey was totally responsible for run #4
__________________
We got this...its our year....
George Foster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:05 PM   #68
Tony Cloninger
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,252
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
True, but one would think after a while that he'd catch on to the usual song and dance of Leake and have a quicker hook.

From where? The hospital? He is not even there
Tony Cloninger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:05 PM   #69
Tom Servo
thirsty and miserable
 
Tom Servo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NJ/NY
Posts: 5,608
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
From where? The hospital? He is not even there



the joke
--------------
my head
__________________
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
Tom Servo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:05 PM   #70
Brutus
Et tu, Brutus?
 
Brutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 9,080
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
wOBA and OPS are composite stats. IMO they do not tell the whole story without further analysis. Heisey's lifetime OPS, including his homer barrage last year, is .766. It's fine, but the OBP part is .316.

I think the Reds' centerfielder should have a .350 OBP, not .316. I think Joey Votto becomes a 125 RBI man with better tablesetters. I see CF on this team as a tablesetting position given the mix of players on this team.

On a power starved team, Heisey probably is a good pickup, he has good power and other skills. For the Reds, I'd prefer a CFer who hits at the top of the order and gets on base more.
I'm still not sure what you're getting at. OPS and wOBA both take into account both OBP and slugging. Sure, OBP carries slightly more weight than does slugging, but that's accounted for in wOBA and his career wOBA against RHP is .349. That's very, very good. The average CF in the majors is less than .330.
__________________
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Brutus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:06 PM   #71
Tony Cloninger
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,252
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post



the joke
--------------
my head


Maybe Dr. Killdare made the call from the bench?
Tony Cloninger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:06 PM   #72
Brutus
Et tu, Brutus?
 
Brutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 9,080
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
True, but one would think after a while that he'd catch on to the usual song and dance of Leake and have a quicker hook.
I've posted the numbers before, but Leake's 75-pitch-plus splits relative to his own averages are actually above average.
__________________
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Brutus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:06 PM   #73
George Foster
1st pick 2022 B.B. draft
 
George Foster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ky
Posts: 5,853
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Free

DiDi !!!
__________________
We got this...its our year....
George Foster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:07 PM   #74
Brutus
Et tu, Brutus?
 
Brutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 9,080
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Foster View Post
Free

DiDi !!!
From what?
__________________
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Brutus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 10:07 PM   #75
Kc61
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,037
Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
Clemente, Berra, Ken Griffey Sr, Dave Concepcion and Vlad Guerrero would never be able to play for you. You really are taking the ..... a hitter has to always take pitches...to the extreme.
Nonsense.

Clemente lifetime OBP .359.
Griffey Sr. lifetime OBP .359.
Berra lifetime OBP .348.
Guerrero lifetime OBP .379.

Even Concepcion, a shortstop known for great defense, .322.

Chris Heisey's lifetime OBP is .316. His plate discipline is the reason. I want an entirely different type of hitter for the Reds' CF.
Kc61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 5 of 24 1234 5 678915 Last »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:50 PM.

Contact Us - RedsZone.com - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25