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Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Apparenty they're going to leave Leake in. Very dangerous. Very.
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09-19-2012, 10:09 PM
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"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement." |
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09-19-2012, 10:09 PM
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And tonight he botched a play in LF and just hit into a DP. On top of everything! |
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09-19-2012, 10:10 PM
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Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Heisey DP. Good grief.
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09-19-2012, 10:12 PM
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09-19-2012, 10:12 PM
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I meant in regards to their ability to take pitches. Clemente and Berra's OBP were not mainly derived from walks at all....and they did not meet many pitches they did not like. |
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09-19-2012, 10:13 PM
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But the point is that some folks here are under the impression that Leake falls off a cliff late in the games. The numbers don't suggest that at all, especially relative to how most pitchers fare later in games. Interesting anecdote about Leake's homers though... He's given up 17.8 percent of his flyballs as home runs. In the past 10 years of all starting pitchers in any season, only five guys have given up a larger percentage. All five, by the way, went on to give up a percentage at least 5 points lower the following season. That suggests that Leake has likely been a little snake bitten in that he's really not giving up many flyballs, but an inordinate number are leaving the yard.
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09-19-2012, 10:15 PM
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I'd love to have a .350 OBP guy too. But if he slugs .300, that's not an upgrade.
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09-19-2012, 10:18 PM
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Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Arredondo on the mound
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09-19-2012, 10:18 PM
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And frankly to mention Heisey in the same sentence as these great hitters is kind of a joke. Yes, some guys can be great hitters not walking that much. I happen to think Heisey is not one of them. So while you are looking for Heisey to turn into Roberto Clemente, I'd prefer a centerfielder with good plate discipline who gets on base frequently. |
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Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
Oh boy, Jose on the hill.
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09-19-2012, 10:19 PM
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I hope to God Ludwick's groin is OK...his bat was heating up again.
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09-19-2012, 10:19 PM
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Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs
I agree KC that i would rather have someone else than these 2......but i also would rather have Heisey in there over Stubbs more.
Let Stubbs try playing LF after sitting on the bench all night and see how fresh he is. His speed makes up for a lot of his misjudging of balls. |
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