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edabbs44 · 09-25-2012, 10:13 PM

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"I was intimately aware of the clubhouse in which I lived. I would say that 80 percent of the Dodgers players were consuming them," Gagne says in the book.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/s...mates-were-hgh

oneupper · 09-25-2012, 10:15 PM

Like with Canseco, they'll say he's exaggerating to sell his book.
But he's probably not.

savafan · 09-25-2012, 10:19 PM

Looks like the problem may be quite a bit worse than I thought.

dougdirt · 09-25-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by savafan

Looks like the problem may be quite a bit worse than I thought.

Or maybe those west coast teams just have really easy access to that stuff.

Tom Servo · 09-25-2012, 11:08 PM

Not that the problem of PED usage is over, but Gagne hasn't pitched for the Dodgers since 2006. I think many players from the old generation of PED use, of Gagne's era, are gone. Looking at his Dodgers teammates from that time, you had guys who were definitely using like Guillermo Mota, Matt Herges, Paul Lo Duca, and Gary Sheffield, in addition to guys who had question marks by their name like Shawn Green and Kevin Brown.

Team Clark · 09-25-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Not that the problem of PED usage is over, but Gagne hasn't pitched for the Dodgers since 2006. I think many players from the old generation of PED use, of Gagne's era, are gone. Looking at his Dodgers teammates from that time, you had guys who were definitely using like Guillermo Mota, Matt Herges, Paul Lo Duca, and Gary Sheffield, in addition to guys who had question marks by their name like Shawn Green and Kevin Brown.

Absolutely agree. If memory serves, it wasn't against the rules either. So, why not take that road!? A real shame, but that era is over.

Johnny Footstool · 09-26-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Clark

Absolutely agree. If memory serves, it wasn't against the rules either. So, why not take that road!? A real shame, but that era is over.

There was a rule stating that PEDs were forbidden.

What was missing was any kind of testing, or any kind of enforcement, so the rule was a complete joke.

WVRedsFan · 09-26-2012, 12:21 AM

Are drugs like Adderall on the list of banned substances? I was told last weekend by a PR person for someone who got banned from NASCAR that it was not. Tried to look it up without success.

Team Clark · 09-26-2012, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

There was a rule stating that PEDs were forbidden.

What was missing was any kind of testing, or any kind of enforcement, so the rule was a complete joke.

Yes. That is correct. I was getting that confused with some of the PED's that were not illegal or forbidden at the time.

Blitz Dorsey · 09-26-2012, 12:45 AM

This is the least-surprising thing of all time.

Blitz Dorsey · 09-26-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Not that the problem of PED usage is over, but Gagne hasn't pitched for the Dodgers since 2006. I think many players from the old generation of PED use, of Gagne's era, are gone. Looking at his Dodgers teammates from that time, you had guys who were definitely using like Guillermo Mota, Matt Herges, Paul Lo Duca, and Gary Sheffield, in addition to guys who had question marks by their name like Shawn Green and Kevin Brown.

Wait, did you just list all those guys and then say Kevin Brown was a "question mark"? Uh, Kevin Brown is almost as obvious as Barry Bonds IMO.

Wonderful Monds · 09-26-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WVRedsFan

Are drugs like Adderall on the list of banned substances? I was told last weekend by a PR person for someone who got banned from NASCAR that it was not. Tried to look it up without success.

I know it is in the NFL.

edabbs44 · 09-26-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Not that the problem of PED usage is over, but Gagne hasn't pitched for the Dodgers since 2006. I think many players from the old generation of PED use, of Gagne's era, are gone. Looking at his Dodgers teammates from that time, you had guys who were definitely using like Guillermo Mota, Matt Herges, Paul Lo Duca, and Gary Sheffield, in addition to guys who had question marks by their name like Shawn Green and Kevin Brown.

Beltre and Dreifort were also in one of those buckets.

edabbs44 · 09-26-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

Or maybe those west coast teams just have really easy access to that stuff.

You are probably both correct. But the Bosox and NYY were also epicenters of usage. Rangers as well. And the Sosas and McGwires of the world didn't have any issue getting it either.

cincinnati chili · 09-26-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

I know it is in the NFL.

can you get a waiver for adderall if you've been taking it for legitimate medically-prescribed reasons?

09-25-2012, 10:15 PM	#2
oneupper Danger is my business! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Back in Florida Posts: 7,857	Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs" Like with Canseco, they'll say he's exaggerating to sell his book. But he's probably not. __________________ "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." http://dalmady.blogspot.com

09-25-2012, 10:19 PM	#3
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Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,421	Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs" Not that the problem of PED usage is over, but Gagne hasn't pitched for the Dodgers since 2006. I think many players from the old generation of PED use, of Gagne's era, are gone. Looking at his Dodgers teammates from that time, you had guys who were definitely using like Guillermo Mota, Matt Herges, Paul Lo Duca, and Gary Sheffield, in addition to guys who had question marks by their name like Shawn Green and Kevin Brown. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

09-26-2012, 12:21 AM	#8
WVRedsFan Lime in da Coconut Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Rainelle, WV Posts: 7,712	Re: Gagne: "80% of Dodgers teammates were using PEDs" Are drugs like Adderall on the list of banned substances? I was told last weekend by a PR person for someone who got banned from NASCAR that it was not. Tried to look it up without success. __________________ www.ris-news.com "The price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that someday they might force their beliefs on us." Mario Cuomo "You only have to bat a thousand in two things; flying and heart transplants. Everything else you can go 4-for-5." -Beano Cook

09-26-2012, 12:45 AM	#10
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