NFL Officiating

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by Reds Freak

I think it will be pretty funny when the strike is over and we realize that the real refs are pretty crappy too. I'd say the NFL is nearly impossible to officiate well.

It is but at least the real refs will know how to run off 10 seconds and count to 3 time outs

[Stray]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

I understand your point that there were horrendous calls that went both ways but in the end Seattle only "earned" 7 points. I think with decent officiating Aaron Rodgers and the Pack would have scored more than 7 pts.

A horrible defensive PI call extended the Packers go ahead touchdown drive...and I think it was on 3rd down. I disagree about Rodgers putting up more points with the real refs, their problem was they couldn't block Seattle's D-Line. There were tons of holding calls GB got away with as well.

In the end I think the officiating was so bad that it's almost impossible to figure out. I just think that by looking at the whole game I feel like Seattle played better.

[Redsfaithful]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

It is but at least the real refs will know how to run off 10 seconds and count to 3 time outs

Exactly. Arguing that the real refs aren't perfect is a huge strawman, nobody is claiming they are. But they are the best we are going to get, and these replacements have been awful.

[Sea Ray]

It now looks as if this thing will get settled and we'll have the real officials back in time for Sunday's games and maybe even in time for tomorrow night's game.

Anyone who's been watching ESPN this past week knows that their "insiders" led by Adam Schefter have been saying that once it's settled, they'll need a week or more to get back on the field due to training issues, physicals, travel etc.

Well now it seems that those insiders didn't know what the heck they were talking about. It seems that the physicals have already been done as has the training on the new rules and all, hence the new projections of getting them on the field immediately.

Chalk another one up for ESPN...

[Reds Freak]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

It is but at least the real refs will know how to run off 10 seconds and count to 3 time outs

I completely understand what you're saying and I hope the real refs get back soon too. But I'm just saying don't forget real refs once blew a coin toss, real refs said that Tom Brady threw an incomplete pass against Oakland and a real ref said that Justin Smith sacked someone too hard...

[CTA513]

I hope the broadcasters and people at espn, nbc etc. keep pointing out the mistakes when the real refs return like they made sure to do with the the replacement refs.

[Chip R]

Originally Posted by CTA513

I hope the broadcasters and people at espn, nbc etc. keep pointing out the mistakes when the real refs return like they made sure to do with the the replacement refs.

I'm sure they will. They certainly haven't been shy about doing it in the past.

No one believes the regular officials were or will be perfect. But they are the best that there are and the players and the fans deserve to have the best officials out there. They are going to make mistakes. They may even cost a team a game because of a bad call. But at least they will be the best they have out there and not incompetents.

[Razor Shines]

I was kinda looking forward to another week of the replacement refs. Some more defensive holding "on 93 red", "5 year penalty" for 12 men in the huddle.


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[Slyder]

Originally Posted by Chip R

I'm sure they will. They certainly haven't been shy about doing it in the past.

No one believes the regular officials were or will be perfect. But they are the best that there are and the players and the fans deserve to have the best officials out there. They are going to make mistakes. They may even cost a team a game because of a bad call. But at least they will be the best they have out there and not incompetents.

Whats the odds that the Raiders have more penalties this week with the "real" officials than they had the previous 3 weeks combined (14 for those who are wondering).

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by Reds Freak

I completely understand what you're saying and I hope the real refs get back soon too. But I'm just saying don't forget real refs once blew a coin toss, real refs said that Tom Brady threw an incomplete pass against Oakland and a real ref said that Justin Smith sacked someone too hard...

Real refs make bad calls indeed. We all understand that.

The Tom Brady call was correct according to the rulebook. If they'd called it a fumble it would have gone against the "Tuck Rule".

[fearofpopvol1]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Real refs make bad calls indeed. We all understand that.

The Tom Brady call was correct according to the rulebook. If they'd called it a fumble it would have gone against the "Tuck Rule".

It may have been the correct call, but that doesn't mean it's not a bad rule.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1

It may have been the correct call, but that doesn't mean it's not a bad rule.

What would be bad is if the officials only enforced rules that they deemed to be good ones. There are a lot of NFL rules that I don't agree with but that's another discussion. It's not bad officiating if they enforce the rulebook

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by Reds Freak

I completely understand what you're saying and I hope the real refs get back soon too. But I'm just saying don't forget real refs once blew a coin toss, real refs said that Tom Brady threw an incomplete pass against Oakland and a real ref said that Justin Smith sacked someone too hard...

Those things happened over a period of years.


We've already had the same number of egregious errors this season, over the course of 3 games.

[Sea Ray]

The official that threw up his hands signaling TD still says that his call was right:

Easley said Packers safety M.D. Jennings never had independent possession of the ball. He said it was clearly a case of simultaneous possession with Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate, which means the reception goes to the offensive player. "You have to not only have the ball but have either 2 feet or a body part on the ground, and that never happened," Easley said, referencing Jennings’ interception attempt.

"Put any other official who knows the rules and they would make the same call," he added.

Easley, a banker from Santa Maria, Calif., who officiates junior college games in southern California, defended the quality of work by the replacement refs.

"We did a damn good job ... for the most part," he said.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...ll-golden-tate

If that's the way you see it old man, I say good riddance

[CTA513]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

The official that threw up his hands signaling TD still says that his call was right:







http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...ll-golden-tate

If that's the way you see it old man, I say good riddance

Not willing to admit they were wrong? sounds like he would fit right in with the regular refs.