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westofyou · 10-05-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan

Ed Roush of the Reds was standing on the Walnut Street sidewalk outside the Hotel Metropole on the evening of Oct. 2, 1919, just after the Reds beat the White Sox in Game 2 to take a 2-0 World Series lead, when he first learned of the scandal that would rock baseball.

The Hotel Metropole building is directly across from the Aronoff Center and is currently being renovated into the ultra-chic 21c Hotel Cincinnati.

John Erardi/RedZone talked about this a few years ... it's really interesting.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1211762

This book by his granddaughter has lots of items about town during that era

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Legs-Black.../dp/1578602297

In 1919 one could still get booze, down the street from the park was a brewery with a basement bar that was cool and refreshing after a hot humid day game and the players would often stop by and enjoy some free cold ones and the cool basement air

PuffyPig · 10-05-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatherC1212

Joey Votto won the season OBP title for all of baseball and it wasn't even close for second place. I wish I had the actual stat in front of me but I saw it via Twitter the other day and now I can't find it again. Work is getting in the way of my baseball fandom right now, LOL

And they had to add quite of few AB's (0 for ?) so he would qualify.

Blitz Dorsey · 10-05-2012, 01:49 PM

Gary Redus led the team in home runs in 1983 with a grand total of 17.

If it were 1903, that wouldn't be a big deal. But in 1983? Wow. That was a baaaaaaaaad Reds team.

George Anderson · 10-05-2012, 01:58 PM

Every member of the 1997 OD Reds coaching staff at one time played for the Reds.

25 Ray Knight

30 Ken Griffey, Sr.
35 Don Gullett
47 Tom Hume
19 Dennis Menke
0 Ron Oester
2 Joel Youngblood

I sent a question in to Baseball Digest year sago and asked if this is the only time in MLB history it has happened. They couldn't confirm it but they thought it was.

George Anderson · 10-05-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

This book by his granddaughter has lots of items about town during that era

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Legs-Black.../dp/1578602297

In 1919 one could still get booze, down the street from the park was a brewery with a basement bar that was cool and refreshing after a hot humid day game and the players would often stop by and enjoy some free cold ones and the cool basement air

Edd Roush's niece lived across the street from me when I was growing up. She gave me an autographed picture of him.

westofyou · 10-05-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

Gary Redus led the team in home runs in 1983 with a grand total of 17.

If it were 1903, that wouldn't be a big deal. But in 1983? Wow. That was a baaaaaaaaad Reds team.

Only 10 NL players had 21 or more, 5 had, 30 or more, one 40

The game was different then

dsmith421 · 10-05-2012, 02:05 PM

Miguel Cairo finished last in the NL (150 PA minimum) in on-base percentage at .212.

Wilson Valdez finished ... wait for it ... SECOND LAST in the NL (150 PA minimum) in slugging percentage at .227. Thankfully, Emmanuel Burriss of S.F. finished at .221. (By the way, Paul Janish was a tick ahead of Valdez.)

The fact that these two worthies split about 400 PA this year and the Reds still finished with 97 wins is ... something.

PuffyPig · 10-05-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

Gary Redus led the team in home runs in 1983 with a grand total of 17.

If it were 1903, that wouldn't be a big deal. But in 1983? Wow. That was a baaaaaaaaad Reds team.

In 1984, Parker led them with 16. In 1982, Driessen led them with 17. it was a bad stretch of years.

Blitz Dorsey · 10-05-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Only 10 NL players had 21 or more, 5 had, 30 or more, one 40

The game was different then

Of course the game was different then. But in a 12-team NL, 27 players that year hit 21 or more HRs, six of which hit 30 or more. The Reds were led by someone who hit 17. That's by far the fewest to lead a Reds team since then. (Or not. As Puffy and WOY pointed out, Dave Parker led the Reds with just 16 the very next season. I'm an idiot. That is all.)

westofyou · 10-05-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

Of course the game was different then. But in a 12-team NL, 27 players that year hit 21 or more HRs, six of which hit 30 or more. The Reds were led by someone who hit 17. That's by far the fewest to lead a Reds team since then.

They were horrible for sure, by far the worst Reds team I ever had to stomach

But the next year Parker led the team with only 16 and the next highest was 4 guys with 10

Blitz Dorsey · 10-05-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

They were horrible for sure, by far the worst Reds team I ever had to stomach

But the next year Parker led the team with only 16 and the next highest was 4 guys with 10

I stand corrected! Not sure why I thought Parker had way more than that in '84. Probably because he was so damn good in '85. Oh well, I should always look these things up and not trust my memory! Ha.

westofyou · 10-05-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

I stand corrected! Not sure why I thought Parker had way more than that in '84. Probably because he was so damn good in '85. Oh well, I should always look these things up and not trust my memory! Ha.

Just one Giant had more than 12 home runs this season. (Posey 24)

The Reds had 7 guys with 14 or more

OldRightHander · 10-05-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Just one Giant had more than 12 home runs this season. (Posey 24)

The Reds had 7 guys with 14 or more

And I think they only hit around 125 or thereabouts in 1990. The game has changed a bit since then.

Blitz Dorsey · 10-05-2012, 05:33 PM

OK, back on point. Here is something you DEFINITELY don't know.

The day after almost throwing a no-hitter as a rookie in 1985, none other than Tom Browning came to Dayton, OH and threw out the first pitch in our Little League game at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. I'll never forget it.

Browning went on to win 20 games as a rook.

Oh yeah, and you know about what he did three years later when he threw a perfect game. Needless to say, losing the no-hitter as a rookie didn't keep him up at nights.

corkedbat · 10-05-2012, 06:13 PM

Joey V. was walking down a narrow sidewalk the other day and looked up. There in his way was Chuck Norris...Chuck said "sorry Mr. Votto" and stepped aside.

10-05-2012, 01:49 PM	#18
Blitz Dorsey Party like it's 1990 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,310	Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know Gary Redus led the team in home runs in 1983 with a grand total of 17. If it were 1903, that wouldn't be a big deal. But in 1983? Wow. That was a baaaaaaaaad Reds team.

10-05-2012, 01:58 PM	#19
George Anderson Beer is good!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 4,117	Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know Every member of the 1997 OD Reds coaching staff at one time played for the Reds. 25 Ray Knight 30 Ken Griffey, Sr. 35 Don Gullett 47 Tom Hume 19 Dennis Menke 0 Ron Oester 2 Joel Youngblood I sent a question in to Baseball Digest year sago and asked if this is the only time in MLB history it has happened. They couldn't confirm it but they thought it was. __________________ "Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard

10-05-2012, 02:05 PM	#22
dsmith421 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,067	Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know Miguel Cairo finished last in the NL (150 PA minimum) in on-base percentage at .212. Wilson Valdez finished ... wait for it ... SECOND LAST in the NL (150 PA minimum) in slugging percentage at .227. Thankfully, Emmanuel Burriss of S.F. finished at .221. (By the way, Paul Janish was a tick ahead of Valdez.) The fact that these two worthies split about 400 PA this year and the Reds still finished with 97 wins is ... something.

10-05-2012, 05:33 PM	#29
Blitz Dorsey Party like it's 1990 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,310	Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know OK, back on point. Here is something you DEFINITELY don't know. The day after almost throwing a no-hitter as a rookie in 1985, none other than Tom Browning came to Dayton, OH and threw out the first pitch in our Little League game at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. I'll never forget it. Browning went on to win 20 games as a rook. Oh yeah, and you know about what he did three years later when he threw a perfect game. Needless to say, losing the no-hitter as a rookie didn't keep him up at nights.

10-05-2012, 06:13 PM	#30
corkedbat Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lexington Posts: 4,949	Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know Joey V. was walking down a narrow sidewalk the other day and looked up. There in his way was Chuck Norris...Chuck said "sorry Mr. Votto" and stepped aside. Last edited by corkedbat; 10-05-2012 at 06:16 PM.

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