Ohio State Football 2012

[WMR]

He should go up to Canada and join the CFL if being a rockstar at Ohio State and getting a free world-class education isn't up his alley.

[dabvu2498]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

There is a difference between outside work for football, and school work simply because you want to play football. If he were a minor league football player, his outside work would be what it is right now, except without the school work. And he would be getting paid.

He is being compensated, however.

But my other point is, the kid knew he was going to have to deal with academics when he signed his LOI. That was his choice.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by dabvu2498

He is being compensated, however.

But my other point is, the kid knew he was going to have to deal with academics when he signed his LOI. That was his choice.

He is being compensated with something that he doesn't want. Would you be ok if you were forced to do something for your future that you didn't want and were compensated with mandatory classes for something you had no interest in rather than being given money?

As for your other point, sure, it is valid. But the system is broken. Big time. These big colleges run a billion dollar a year industry for a pennies on the dollar in scholarships as "payment" to the athletes. These athletes, some of whom, literally have no interest in those scholarships, but just want to play football and move to the NFL. But they can't just go to the NFL. They must go to college, where they are forced to do things that have nothing at all to do with what they plan to do with their future.

[dabvu2498]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Would you be ok if you were forced to do something for your future that you didn't want and were compensated with mandatory classes for something you had no interest in rather than being given money?

You just described college. For virtually everyone. And most people pay for the privilege. He doesn't.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by dabvu2498

You just described college. For virtually everyone. And most people pay for the privilege. He doesn't.

And those people are required to go to college in order to learn their craft. Football isn't like becoming a teacher or a doctor or a lawyer and you know it.

[dabvu2498]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

And those people are required to go to college in order to learn their craft. Football isn't like becoming a teacher or a doctor or a lawyer and you know it.

But going to college IS a requirement for becoming a pro football player. And that includes going to classes and doing stuff you don't like and that has no direct relevance to your future career... Just like nearly everyone else in college. And hey, unlike the professions you named above, becoming a pro football player doesn't even require to to obtain a degree.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by dabvu2498

But going to college IS a requirement for becoming a pro football player. And that includes going to classes and doing stuff you don't like and that has no direct relevance to your future career... Just like nearly everyone else in college. And hey, unlike the professions you named above, becoming a pro football player doesn't even require to to obtain a degree.

Unlike other professions though, you actually can leave college after 3 years, without graduating and go play in the NFL. Heck, you only have to go to college for a semester to go play in the NBA and in both cases, not a single class that you are required to take has anything at all to do with the next step in your career other than they are mandatory so other people can make money off of you. It is a joke. The athletes are getting royally screwed.

[cincrazy]

Cardale Jones said something that 95% of college athletes think. Pretty much a nonstory. If he's not a Buckeye, I hardly think a thread gets started on this.

[sonny]

So about those Buckeyes...

After watching the local Urban Meyer show here in Columbus, I think he has his players focused. He said something tithe effect of "The guys are chomping at the bit to make a statement."

We shall see.

[improbus]

This certainly isn't Tressel ball.

[Hillsdale87]

Originally Posted by sonny

So about those Buckeyes...

After watching the local Urban Meyer show here in Columbus, I think he has his players focused. He said something tithe effect of "The guys are chomping at the bit to make a statement."

We shall see.

The offense has certainly made a statement. The defense on the other hand... I've got a feeling Fickell might be looking for a new job in the offseason. The defense returned 10 starters and have struggled in every game except against MSU. Frustrating because there are a lot of good individual players, but they're not putting it all together

[nmculbreth]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Unlike other professions though, you actually can leave college after 3 years, without graduating and go play in the NFL. Heck, you only have to go to college for a semester to go play in the NBA and in both cases, not a single class that you are required to take has anything at all to do with the next step in your career other than they are mandatory so other people can make money off of you. It is a joke. The athletes are getting royally screwed.

No, they're really not. The athletes in question receive first class training for their chosen profession at no cost to themselves and those who aren't quite good enough to make it to the NFL end up with a college degree and no student loan debt.

Nobody is forcing these kids to go to college. If they want to try to find an alternate way to hone their skills and make it to the NFL, they're certainly free to do so.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by nmculbreth

No, they're really not. The athletes in question receive first class training for their chosen profession at no cost to themselves and those who aren't quite good enough to make it to the NFL end up with a college degree and no student loan debt.

Nobody is forcing these kids to go to college. If they want to try to find an alternate way to hone their skills and make it to the NFL, they're certainly free to do so.

Come on.... they absolutely are forced to go to college to try and hone their skills to make the NFL.

And I would suggest you go out and look at the studies that show just how valuable these football and basketball players are worth on average to their college. It is generally 4-5 times what they have "spent" on them (at big schools) per year.

[dougdirt]

Nice win tonight for the Buckeyes btw. Not how I expected the game today go. I didn't watch the entire game, but this team just doesn't seem like your usual Ohio State defense when it comes to tackling. That is one thing I always had confidence in, that the Buckeyes could tackle. But it just seems like they can't really get it done this year.

[WMR]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Come on.... they absolutely are forced to go to college to try and hone their skills to make the NFL.

And I would suggest you go out and look at the studies that show just how valuable these football and basketball players are worth on average to their college. It is generally 4-5 times what they have "spent" on them (at big schools) per year.

Go to the CFL. Problem solved.