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Old 10-06-2012, 02:29 PM   #46
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Re: The infield Fly

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He never reached the spot where the ball landed. Never.
You're right, it might have been 6 inches behind his feet.

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Old 10-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #47
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You're right, it might have been 6 inches behind his feet.

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More like 2 feet.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:34 PM   #48
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Re: The infield Fly

I don't think the rule should apply if the ball falls beyond the infield behind the infielder. Realistically, if the ball is dropping behind the infielder, he's going to have to get the ball, turn, and throw. Only if the runners are really slow will a double play result. Otherwise, it would have to be fielded by an outfielder running in, in which case the infield fly rule doesn't apply. Maybe for the sake of clarity, they should add an infield fly line to the field. If the ball falls beyond the line, the rule does not apply.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:36 PM   #49
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More like 2 feet.
2 feet or six inches is still less than a step back. So it doesn't matter on a pop fly.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:20 PM   #50
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2 feet or six inches is still less than a step back. So it doesn't matter on a pop fly.
It does matter, he was NOT camped under it. He probably (most definately) could have caught it but even if he had it was never a "camped" under it situation.

I think the rule should not have been applied, however it is a judgement call and the LF umpire (why is an outfield umpire calling an Infield fly???) used his judgement. Maybe some good will come out of this, like perhaps some clarification on when to use this rule, or maybe just the fact that only an infield umpire can make the determination (playoffs only), something.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:58 PM   #51
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It does matter, he was NOT camped under it. He probably (most definately) could have caught it but even if he had it was never a "camped" under it situation.

I think the rule should not have been applied, however it is a judgement call and the LF umpire (why is an outfield umpire calling an Infield fly???) used his judgement. Maybe some good will come out of this, like perhaps some clarification on when to use this rule, or maybe just the fact that only an infield umpire can make the determination (playoffs only), something.
Yeah something needs to be fixed because that was just outrageous and baseball needs to make sure it never happens again. Embarrassing.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:36 PM   #52
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Without the rule would lead to a lot of bunting when you have two runners on, as teams wouldn't want to risk the now increased chance of a double play.

Put your hand up if you want more bunting.
I see Dusty has both hands up in the air.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:29 PM   #53
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Re: The infield Fly

I figure I have watched somewhere around 2,500 MLB baseball games in my life, either in person or on TV. In all those games, I can never recall seeing a call by an ump on an "infield fly" like that one. Maybe I'm misjudging, but it seems to me that it's not right to have seen a call being made for the first time in the playoffs. That just doesn't seem right to me.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:58 PM   #54
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I figure I have watched somewhere around 2,500 MLB baseball games in my life, either in person or on TV. In all those games, I can never recall seeing a call by an ump on an "infield fly" like that one. Maybe I'm misjudging, but it seems to me that it's not right to have seen a call being made for the first time in the playoffs. That just doesn't seem right to me.
Agreed. It was simply a terrible judgement call.
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