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Old 10-10-2012, 04:42 PM   #196
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Re: NLDS Game 4 - Reds vs Giants 10/10/12

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The game isn't over yet. With Cueto out, the Reds didn't have much of a choice but to use Leake today. Some things are out of our control. Latos on 3 days rest in back to back appearances, we don't know how he'll respond. And who knows how Arroyo would do in a game 5 on 3 days rest against Cain.
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Would have produced better results than Mike Leake.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:42 PM   #197
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Get Lecure up. The playoffs is not the time to do confidence building exercises for your worst SP.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:42 PM   #198
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Re: NLDS Game 4 - Reds vs Giants 10/10/12

Cardinals whose deal with Satan must never expire beat the Nationals 8-0
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:42 PM   #199
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Re: NLDS Game 4 - Reds vs Giants 10/10/12

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Leake isn't a joke. He's a pretty good 5th starter. He's just not talented enough for this spot.
This is how I feel about him. I think I would've tried to pitch LeCure from the start and made it a bullpen affair.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:43 PM   #200
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LeCure 2IP
Hoover / Simon 2IP

Would have produced better results than Mike Leake.
You don't know that to be a fact. It's easy for anyone behind a keyboard to second guess the Reds decisions. Teams deal with adversity in the playoffs. It's not a magic carpet ride of no stress. This board needs to take a collective chill pill.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:43 PM   #201
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Re: NLDS Game 4 - Reds vs Giants 10/10/12

Well with the pitcher's spot coming up, you'd like to get out of this inning at least.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:43 PM   #202
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Re: NLDS Game 4 - Reds vs Giants 10/10/12

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Leake isn't a joke. He's a pretty good 5th starter. He's just not talented enough for this spot.
Which is why he should never have been put in this spot.

The Reds understood this when they left him off the post-season roster.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:43 PM   #203
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Latos on 3 days rest in back to back appearances, we don't know how he'll respond.
Couldn't have been worse than what we're getting from the shirt thief.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:43 PM   #204
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He's a bullben master. Didn't you see the way he ingeniously yanked Chapman last night? Brilliant.

Oh and Scott Rolen has earned the starting job at third base becuase of his terrifc play in 2003.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:43 PM   #205
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Leake isn't a joke. He's a pretty good 5th starter. He's just not talented enough for this spot.
This is correct. Everyone relax. Looks like a home run day at GABP, that works for both teams.

Problem with the playoffs is the other team is good too. Nobody said it would be easy.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:44 PM   #206
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Some of those losers were two rows in front of me. They were drunk, obnoxious a-holes, doing the woo every 10 seconds, and calling Blanco every name in the book. By about the 7th inning, they were burned out and couldn't even stand up.
What section were you in?
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:44 PM   #207
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i get nervous with every pitch here. leake isn't fooling anyone. giants are hitting the ball hard.
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Re: NLDS Game 4 - Reds vs Giants 10/10/12

Is now a bad time to bring up that Mike Trout was taken in the same draft as Leake, but like 17 spots later then Leake?
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You don't know that to be a fact. It's easy for anyone behind a keyboard to second guess the Reds decisions. Teams deal with adversity in the playoffs. It's not a magic carpet ride of no stress. This board needs to take a collective chill pill.
Sam LeCure made the postseason roster.

Mike Leake didn't.

That tells me even the Reds understood he wasn't worth pitching in this series.
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