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Old 10-03-2012, 04:35 PM   #331
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Re: UK Basketball 8th Edition

Current odds from one online sportsbook....

Odds to win the 2012-2013 Men's NCAA Basketball Championship
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Kentucky

13/2

Indiana

8/1

Louisville

17/2

UCLA

12/1

North Carolina

14/1

Duke

18/1

Kansas

20/1

Michigan

20/1

North Carolina State

20/1

Ohio State

20/1

Syracuse

20/1

Arizona

25/1

Florida

25/1

Florida State

25/1

Michigan State

25/1

Missouri

30/1

Memphis

35/1

UNLV

35/1

Stanford

40/1

Texas

40/1

Baylor

50/1

Cincinnati

50/1

Creighton

50/1

Georgetown

50/1

San Diego State

50/1

Tennessee

50/1

Wisconsin

50/1

Gonzaga

55/1

Pittsburgh

60/1

Alabama

65/1

Minnesota

65/1

Notre Dame

65/1

St. John's

65/1

Butler

75/1

California

75/1

Kansas State

75/1

Marquette

75/1

St. Louis

75/1

Texas A&M

75/1

VCU

75/1

Wichita State

75/1

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Old 10-03-2012, 05:05 PM   #332
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It cut off. I am desperate to know what Davidson's odds of winning it all are!
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:05 PM   #333
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Fortunately for UK they're not playing teams from last year or two years ago.

Saying the ceiling for a preseason top 3 team is the sweet 16 isn't logical.
Never said it was. Their ceiling is national champ.

Their likely spot, IMO, is much lower than their pre-season ranking.

The ranking is as much about how little talent is left in CBB and Calipari's coaching acumen with young players as it is about the team itself. IMO, this team is short athletically (5 great athletes, little else), on the bench (nobody to count on and two 50/50 guys) and shooting (only Wiltjer is a knock-down guy). Not only that, this may be the first Calipari team that will be outside the top 20 in total defense, as Wiltjer's not good, Noel and Cauley-Stein are freshmen, Poythress has a questionable motor, and Harrow is short and slight.

Calipari says they'll run, run, run. I hope so. I love when teams do that. I think they'll be fun to watch play the DDMO, especially with Wiltjer camped in the corner. They could score 80+ a game just about every game. But they'll struggle, IMO, to stop anyone. Especially early. And once teams in the SEC slow it down (and they will), I don't know who'll end up able to score one on one.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:25 PM   #334
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That's a reasonable take, Scrap.

Those guys in Vegas weren't able to build those big hotels by not knowing how to set a line, however.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:08 AM   #335
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Harrisons committing tomorrow.

And I'll hold judgement across the board on the shooters until I see how Mays does in Rupp.

Anyone can shoot at Wright State in games that don't matter. But we've seen guys like Barbour, Carrier, etc, who flat out were TERRIBLE with any sort of pressure on them.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:03 AM   #336
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Never said it was. Their ceiling is national champ.

Their likely spot, IMO, is much lower than their pre-season ranking.

The ranking is as much about how little talent is left in CBB and Calipari's coaching acumen with young players as it is about the team itself. IMO, this team is short athletically (5 great athletes, little else), on the bench (nobody to count on and two 50/50 guys) and shooting (only Wiltjer is a knock-down guy). Not only that, this may be the first Calipari team that will be outside the top 20 in total defense, as Wiltjer's not good, Noel and Cauley-Stein are freshmen, Poythress has a questionable motor, and Harrow is short and slight.

Calipari says they'll run, run, run. I hope so. I love when teams do that. I think they'll be fun to watch play the DDMO, especially with Wiltjer camped in the corner. They could score 80+ a game just about every game. But they'll struggle, IMO, to stop anyone. Especially early. And once teams in the SEC slow it down (and they will), I don't know who'll end up able to score one on one.
I tend to agree with Scrap.

I will make one prediction though, I do think by the end of the season Archie Goodwin will be your starting PG. I can actually see a lineup of Archie, Poythress, Wiltjer, Nerlens, and WCS on a given night.

Sounds like the Harrison twins are announcing for Kentucky today as well.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:18 AM   #337
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I tend to agree with Scrap.

I will make one prediction though, I do think by the end of the season Archie Goodwin will be your starting PG. I can actually see a lineup of Archie, Poythress, Wiltjer, Nerlens, and WCS on a given night.

Sounds like the Harrison twins are announcing for Kentucky today as well.
No way. Harrow all year.
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No way. Harrow all year.
I am looking forward to seeing how Harrow does. I would think he would be ahead any point guard Cal has had since he has been in the system for a year.
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So whats the word on the twins?
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No way. Harrow all year.
Agree. I think he will be a great player for us.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:13 AM   #343
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Yes, I'm sure academics played a part. See you two next June.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:19 PM   #344
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James Young to announce tomorrow and the only school that he has really had any contact with is Kentucky.

Cats will have three of the top 5 recruits according to ESPN.com and Cal is not done. Julius Randle has also been recruited heavily by Kentucky as well and Andrew Wiggins, considered by many to be the top player in 2014, could reclassify and join them.

This could be the best recruiting class of all time.
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This could be the best recruiting class of all time.
So in other words, it's Calipari's most recent recruiting class.
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