Reds to offer Baker a contract

[Wheelhouse]

Per MLB Trade rumors: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

[steig]

[Always Red]

One year offer, per MLBTR.

Could be designed to allow Dusty to decline, gracefully, and allowing both parties to go their separate way with some dignity intact.

[redsfan30]

I know I am firmly in the minority but I really hope he returns.

[AtomicDumpling]

Looks like Walt got overruled by Castellini...

If Dusty does stay in town maybe Jocketty can send Dusty to a remedial managing school to learn about OBP and run expectancy tables. Maybe that will result in some smarter lineup construction and less bunting.

[Kc61]

Originally Posted by Always Red

One year offer, per MLBTR.

Could be designed to allow Dusty to decline, gracefully, and allowing both parties to go their separate way with some dignity intact.

Don't be surprised if this is what is going on. It's the same approach the Yanks used with Torre when they weren't wild about his return.

Particularly in light of Dusty's health issues, I would not be suprised if they will only offer him one year. I would be also not be surprised if Dusty declines.

If the Reds were that excited about a Dusty return, they wouldn't be focused only on a "short-term" contract. So that language tells us something.

On the other hand, Dusty may feel that he is getting near the end and doesn't want a very long term commitment. Doubtful. I think he may tell the Reds, multi-year deal with a raise, or he's moving on.

My instinct is that this will not work out and Dusty will not return. Just a guess, based on Dusty's comments post-game yesterday, the "short-term" language, and the debacle of this five game series loss.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling

Looks like Walt got overruled by Castellini...

If Dusty does stay in town maybe Jocketty can send Dusty to a remedial managing school to learn about OBP and run expectancy tables. Maybe that will result in some smarter lineup construction and less bunting.

Maybe Walt can get him some better OBP guys.

[CySeymour]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Maybe Walt can get him some better OBP guys.

This.

If Dusty is using too many of the wrong guys, then Walt should trade them or let them go.

[RedEye]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Maybe Walt can get him some better OBP guys.

I agree that Dusty could have some better OBP guys. But he could also use the OBP resources he has far better. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

[RedEye]

I feel like Dusty's tenure here has run its course. This team needs someone to get them over the proverbial hump, and I'm not sure he's the one to do it.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

Maybe Walt can get him some better OBP guys.

2008-2012, the Reds OPS ranking has been better than their runs ranking in the NL only once. Shouldn't it be better more often if lineup construction was really a problem?

[klw]

Originally Posted by CySeymour

This.

If Dusty is using too many of the wrong guys, then Walt should trade them or let them go.

You traded Pena?
http://www.filmoa.com/video/you-traded-pena-moneyball
Moneyball Clip 1 - YouTube

[oneupper]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

2008-2012, the Reds OPS ranking has been better than their runs ranking in the NL only once. Shouldn't it be better more often if lineup construction was really a problem?

Giving bad hitters a lot of ABs brings both OPS and Runs down. It seems the order isn't all that important. (that's what you're saying, right?).

[osuceltic]

Originally Posted by Kc61

Don't be surprised if this is what is going on. It's the same approach the Yanks used with Torre when they weren't wild about his return.

Particularly in light of Dusty's health issues, I would not be suprised if they will only offer him one year. I would be also not be surprised if Dusty declines.

If the Reds were that excited about a Dusty return, they wouldn't be focused only on a "short-term" contract. So that language tells us something.

On the other hand, Dusty may feel that he is getting near the end and doesn't want a very long term commitment. Doubtful. I think he may tell the Reds, multi-year deal with a raise, or he's moving on.

My instinct is that this will not work out and Dusty will not return. Just a guess, based on Dusty's comments post-game yesterday, the "short-term" language, and the debacle of this five game series loss.

Same here. These one-year offers have a way of pushing guys away, which ultimately is what the club usually wants.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by oneupper

Giving bad hitters a lot of ABs brings both OPS and Runs down. It seems the order isn't all that important. (that's what you're saying, right?).

The Reds were #2 and #1 in runs in the NL the prior 2 seasons. What I am saying is that the lineup construction issues are way overrated.