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Tom Servo · 10-15-2012, 01:26 PM

Press conference at 3:00 at GABP.

mdccclxix · 10-15-2012, 01:30 PM

At least he won't go the way of other successful managers in Cincinnati: Sparky, Lou, Davey, & Jack.

Unassisted · 10-15-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mdccclxix

At least he won't go the way of other successful managers in Cincinnati: Sparky, Lou, Davey, & Jack.

You misspelled "unfortunately."

I look forward to hearing the rationale for this move in the presser.

kaldaniels · 10-15-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unassisted

You misspelled "unfortunately."

I look forward to hearing the rationale for this move in the presser.

In the real world, 2 division titles in 3 years (especially for a team that hadn't won one in 15 years) is reason enough.

I totally understand the desire for a more "intelligent" manager, and would not have complained had they got one. But the reality is the 2 division titles put coming back in Dusty's hands.

redsfan30 · 10-15-2012, 01:39 PM

This is Dusty's team and there is unfinished business. I am glad he will get the chance.

I(heart)Freel · 10-15-2012, 01:41 PM

After perusing the "next manager" threads and being completely underwhelmed with the options, I am not opposed to this agreement at all.

Take some bad fruit off his plate and he'll be hard-pressed to eat them. That's on Walt.

mattfeet · 10-15-2012, 01:41 PM

I can't really be upset with this. The players love playing for him and this is the best Reds team we've seen in a LONG time.

Dan · 10-15-2012, 01:41 PM

Oh, joy. Two more seasons of catchers batting 8th and not having too many players clogging the basepaths.

Reds/Flyers Fan · 10-15-2012, 01:42 PM

I hope there is some willingness on Dusty's part to look into a new hitting coach. Unfortunately, he's far too loyal to do that to Jacoby. And the team is worse off for it.

westofyou · 10-15-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unassisted

You misspelled "unfortunately."

I look forward to hearing the rationale for this move in the presser.

8th most wins in a season in team history good enough?

Franchises don't dump guys for that

AtomicDumpling · 10-15-2012, 01:44 PM

Looks like Castellini overruled Jocketty... No surprise there.

Going to be plenty of snickers around the league over this one.

Hopefully Walt and the research staff can have better luck teaching Dusty the importance of On-Base Percentage and Run Expectancy tables this year. Somehow I doubt it.

This was a blown opportunity to improve the team by upgrading at manager. I guess the Reds chose to concentrate on public relations instead of improving the product on the field. Its a shame, but the Reds will still be fine even with the strategically-challenged manager.

I(heart)Freel · 10-15-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling

Looks like Castellini overruled Jocketty... No surprise there.

Going to be plenty of snickers around the league over this one.

Hopefully Walt and the research staff can have better luck teaching Dusty the importance of On-Base Percentage and Run Expectancy tables this year. Somehow I doubt it.

This was a blown opportunity to improve the team by upgrading at manager. I guess the Reds chose to concentrate on public relations instead of improving the product on the field. Its a shame, but the Reds will still be fine even with the strategically-challenged manager.

Curious: who would have been an upgrade?

It seems beyond argument that Dusty was a great clubhouse manager. In the other hand, his in-game management is extremely debatable.

But who on the market is slam-dunk good at both aspects? And why aren't they managing right now?

HotCorner · 10-15-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Oh, joy. Two more seasons of catchers batting 8th and not having too many players clogging the basepaths.

This is on Walt. He needs to give Dusty better hitting options than Stubbs, Valdez, Cairo and Rolen.

AtomicDumpling · 10-15-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCorner

This is on Walt. He needs to give Dusty better hitting options than Stubbs, Valdez, Cairo and Rolen.

This topic has been discussed a lot. Dusty has a lot more influence regarding which players are on the roster than you think. Jocketty isn't forcing Dusty to use players he doesn't want on the roster. Those guys are there because Dusty wants them there.

redsfan30 · 10-15-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling

Going to be plenty of snickers around the league over this one.

Two division championships in three years.

Took a team that was one of the laughing stocks of sports and turned them into yearly contenders.

His team would take a bullet for him.

97 wins with half of Votto or no Votto at all for half the season.

I snicker at anyone who would snicker at this.

10-15-2012, 01:26 PM	#1
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,413	Reds extend manager Dusty Baker's contract for 2 seasons, through 2014. Press conference at 3:00 at GABP. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

10-15-2012, 01:30 PM	#2
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10-15-2012, 01:39 PM	#5
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Dan OlafTheBlack Join Date: May 2000 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 2,037	Re: Reds extend manager Dusty Baker's contract for 2 seasons, through 2014. Oh, joy. Two more seasons of catchers batting 8th and not having too many players clogging the basepaths. __________________ Genius\|Madness "Somebody will be bigger, stronger and faster than you, growing up," Griffey said with a shrug. "So why worry about it? As long as you don't let them outwork you, and you can look yourself in the mirror, then that's all you should worry about. Never worry about what somebody else is doing."

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10-15-2012, 01:44 PM	#11
AtomicDumpling KungFu Fighter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,331	Re: Reds extend manager Dusty Baker's contract for 2 seasons, through 2014. Looks like Castellini overruled Jocketty... No surprise there. Going to be plenty of snickers around the league over this one. Hopefully Walt and the research staff can have better luck teaching Dusty the importance of On-Base Percentage and Run Expectancy tables this year. Somehow I doubt it. This was a blown opportunity to improve the team by upgrading at manager. I guess the Reds chose to concentrate on public relations instead of improving the product on the field. Its a shame, but the Reds will still be fine even with the strategically-challenged manager.

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