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Old 10-19-2012, 05:34 PM   #16
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Yeah lets give a player who was bad after June and who is a huge injury and character risk a truck load of money in a small market!

Great plan!
Post All-Star break he had an .833 OPS. Not exactly what I'd call "bad," especially for a premium position.

It's debatable as to whether it's worth the risk but let's not exaggerate the circumstances.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:09 PM   #18
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I have zero interest in Josh Hamilton and the loads of baggage that would come with.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:23 PM   #19
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One thing - or is that two - that Milwaukee offers is the Brothers Narron.
Good point, although I imagine any team that signs Hamilton could easily pry he Narrons away from the Brewers.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:26 PM   #20
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Unless he were willing to do a short term deal, and I don't see any reason why he would be, I'm not interested.
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Big hole in LF and SS. Our pitchers may not like it.
The pitchers just have to not let hitters pull the ball.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:46 PM   #22
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Unless he were willing to do a short term deal, and I don't see any reason why he would be, I'm not interested.
Who's going to give him more than 3-4 years anyhow?
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Who's going to give him more than 3-4 years anyhow?
I know it's not the go-go Aughties anymore where Gary Matthews Jr can get 5 years/50 million, but someone will give Hamilton the deal he's looking for.
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Post All-Star break he had an .833 OPS. Not exactly what I'd call "bad," especially for a premium position.

It's debatable as to whether it's worth the risk but let's not exaggerate the circumstances.
For $20-$30 mill per year... better be AT LEAST .200 higher than .833! And I mean every month. Especially for a team with a payroll that is not in the top-5 spenders. If not, pass.

Even if possible, pass. Baggage, risks, injuries, "special" treatment, etc, etc, etc. PASS!
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Rule of thumb: do the opposite of what Daugherty says to do. He's merely ruminating and is in no way serious. Tomorrow he'll damn the Reds for even considering the idea.
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Post All-Star break he had an .833 OPS. Not exactly what I'd call "bad," especially for a premium position.
He's a LF playing CF, so he really doesn't play a premium position.
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Bold prediction: If Hamilton goes to a rival and performs at a superstar level, there will be a lot of "the Reds should have went harder after him" talk.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:30 AM   #28
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I'm a huge Josh Hamilton fan.

The Reds made a bad trade, or did they? Latos wouldn't be here if it weren't for Volquez......... but an older, more worn down version of Josh isn't what the Reds need now.
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Old 10-20-2012, 12:38 AM   #29
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I'm a huge Josh Hamilton fan.

The Reds made a bad trade, or did they? Latos wouldn't be here if it weren't for Volquez......... but an older, more worn down version of Josh isn't what the Reds need now.
I disagree with this.. Everything we've read said that the Padres really wanted Alonso and Grandal.. The two pitchers were a lesser priority.
Volquez could've been replaced with Leake (or probably a lesser talent).
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:33 AM   #30
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For $20-$30 mill per year... better be AT LEAST .200 higher than .833! And I mean every month. Especially for a team with a payroll that is not in the top-5 spenders. If not, pass.

Even if possible, pass. Baggage, risks, injuries, "special" treatment, etc, etc, etc. PASS!
I wasn't arguing whether or not he's worth that kind of money (although his season as a whole was a .930 OPS so I sense there's a bit of cherry-picking going on). Rather, I was more disagreeing with the narrative that he was "bad" the second half of the year. An .830 OPS from a centerfielder is still pretty good. We'd all be in heaven if Drew Stubbs could do that.
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