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Always Red · 10-23-2012, 09:07 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

.204 BA, but also 41 HR.

Discuss the most polarizing player in my Reds history.

CTA513 · 10-23-2012, 09:49 PM

I'm surprised his teammate Alex Rios didn't win it.

WMR · 10-23-2012, 09:50 PM

Congrats to The Big Donkey.

Pronounced dead before his time.

savafan · 10-23-2012, 10:27 PM

Probably the worst batting average ever for anyone who won the award.

cincinnati chili · 10-23-2012, 10:46 PM

I heard that some outfit gave it to Fernando Rodney, which I found puzzling because he didn't really "come back" as much as "come."

The .204 batting average doesn't mean much of anything, but the .333 OBP suggests that he hasn't really come back to where he was even in 2010. I always hated the Dave Kingman comparisons but if he doesn't start getting on base again, those comparisons will become fair.

Dan · 10-23-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Always Red

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html

.204 BA, but also 41 HR.

Discuss the most polarizing player in my Reds history.

I take it you weren't a fan when Eric Davis was around in the 80s.

Wonderful Monds · 10-23-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cincinnati chili

I heard that some outfit gave it to Fernando Rodney, which I found puzzling because he didn't really "come back" as much as "come."

The .204 batting average doesn't mean much of anything, but the .333 OBP suggests that he hasn't really come back to where he was even in 2010. I always hated the Dave Kingman comparisons but if he doesn't start getting on base again, those comparisons will become fair.

No way, a ~.200 can't be simply hand waved away. He might be better than last year, but he's still declining pretty hard.

jojo · 10-23-2012, 10:58 PM

Dunn's 2012 might be the worst 40 HR season in history.....

Wonderful Monds · 10-23-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo

Dunn's 2012 might be the worst 40 HR season in history.....

Good call:
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-seasons-ever/

WVPacman · 10-23-2012, 11:56 PM

I would rather have him still in a reds uni than Stubbs ANYDAY.

Johnny Footstool · 10-24-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnati chili

I heard that some outfit gave it to Fernando Rodney, which I found puzzling because he didn't really "come back" as much as "come."

The .204 batting average doesn't mean much of anything, but the .333 OBP suggests that he hasn't really come back to where he was even in 2010. I always hated the Dave Kingman comparisons but if he doesn't start getting on base again, those comparisons will become fair.

The .204 batting average means that his OBP is now almost entirely driven by walks.

Dunner, I loved ya, but you're nearing the end.

AtomicDumpling · 10-24-2012, 02:35 AM

Congrats Adam! Nice job this season.

Some people like to focus on stats like Batting Average and Strikeouts.
Some people like to focus on his .800 OPS, 41 Home Runs, 96 RBIs and 87 Runs Scored.

Adam Dunn has 400 Home Runs, 1000 RBIs and 1000 Runs Scored at the age of 32. That is a rare breed of hitter.

The guy is a solid hitter. He is not a superstar like Albert Pujols or Joey Votto -- never was and never will be. Too many people have held that against him. He has been a very productive hitter in unconventional ways. Some people just don't want to give him credit for his production because they don't like the way he does it. Production is production no matter how you get it done. Adam Dunn simply puts runs on the scoreboard for his team despite his AVG and Ks.

GAC · 10-24-2012, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WVPacman

I would rather have him still in a reds uni than Stubbs ANYDAY.

I'd want neither. But at least Stubbs can play the field.

RedsBaron · 10-24-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

The .204 batting average means that his OBP is now almost entirely driven by walks.

Dunner, I loved ya, but you're nearing the end.

Yes. Dunn isn't that old but it is by no means certain he will last long enough to reach 500 career HRs. It wouldn't surprise me to see Dunn's career to be over in a couple of years.

blumj · 10-24-2012, 06:56 AM

At the complete other end of the BA/HR spectrum, I think I would have given it to Mauer.

10-23-2012, 09:07 PM	#1
Always Red nothing more than a fan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,098	Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201....ap/index.html .204 BA, but also 41 HR. Discuss the most polarizing player in my Reds history.

10-23-2012, 09:49 PM	#2
CTA513 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10,703	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL I'm surprised his teammate Alex Rios didn't win it.

10-23-2012, 10:27 PM	#4
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,486	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL Probably the worst batting average ever for anyone who won the award. __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

10-23-2012, 10:46 PM	#5
cincinnati chili post hype sleeper Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 10,358	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL I heard that some outfit gave it to Fernando Rodney, which I found puzzling because he didn't really "come back" as much as "come." The .204 batting average doesn't mean much of anything, but the .333 OBP suggests that he hasn't really come back to where he was even in 2010. I always hated the Dave Kingman comparisons but if he doesn't start getting on base again, those comparisons will become fair. __________________ On Dasher On Dancer On Prancer Ondrusek

10-23-2012, 10:58 PM	#8
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,695	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL Dunn's 2012 might be the worst 40 HR season in history..... __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

10-23-2012, 11:56 PM	#10
WVPacman Reds fan for life!!!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,889	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL I would rather have him still in a reds uni than Stubbs ANYDAY. __________________ I can spell,I just can't type!!

10-24-2012, 02:35 AM	#12
AtomicDumpling KungFu Fighter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,355	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL Congrats Adam! Nice job this season. Some people like to focus on stats like Batting Average and Strikeouts. Some people like to focus on his .800 OPS, 41 Home Runs, 96 RBIs and 87 Runs Scored. Adam Dunn has 400 Home Runs, 1000 RBIs and 1000 Runs Scored at the age of 32. That is a rare breed of hitter. The guy is a solid hitter. He is not a superstar like Albert Pujols or Joey Votto -- never was and never will be. Too many people have held that against him. He has been a very productive hitter in unconventional ways. Some people just don't want to give him credit for his production because they don't like the way he does it. Production is production no matter how you get it done. Adam Dunn simply puts runs on the scoreboard for his team despite his AVG and Ks.

10-24-2012, 06:56 AM	#15
blumj Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,349	Re: Dunn Comeback Player of Year in AL At the complete other end of the BA/HR spectrum, I think I would have given it to Mauer. __________________ "Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons

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