Cringe-Worthy Music

[camisadelgolf]

And if you don't mind bad words, search "Skrillex Rapping Freestyle.mp4" on YouTube.

[gilpdawg]

Originally Posted by Revering4Blue

Not their best work by a long shot, but, IMHO, not their worst.

"Invisible Touch" was a sell-out tune if there ever was one. The sappy "In Too Deep" didn't do anything for me, either.

Here's my favorite Genesis tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pteh5hdZlg

[gilpdawg]

Originally Posted by Dom Heffner

Taylor Swift's music doesn't suck.

I realize it's about taste- but it isn't awful. It's not Rush, you know?

Oh, come on man! Why don't you just cut my heart out of my chest!

[gilpdawg]

If we're posting bad music videos...I just won the thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tnj...eature=related

[Captain13]

There may be other songs just as bad, but I challenge anyone to find a song more "cringe worthy" for any number of reasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HeE6NWmDE

[*BaseClogger*]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Here is a sampling of the artists on my current playlist:

50 Cent
Alkaline Trio
Atreyu
Lil Wayne
Catch 22
Drake
Fall Out Boy
Green Day
Hi-Tek
Hilary Duff
Hoobastank
Jay Z
Jimmy Eat World
Kanye West
Less Than Jake
Muse
My Chemical Romance
Nada Surf
Oasis
Rachel Platton
Rage Against the Machine
Streetlight Manifesto
Taking Back Sunday
T.I.
Taylor Swift
The Mars Volta
The Postal Service
Thrice
Vanessa Carlton

I listen to an incredibly wide variety of music. It isn't just teenage girls buying her stuff.

I see mainstream rap music, some pop, and the emo pop-punk garbage I listened to in high school...

EDIT: I still listen to some older Alkaline Trio, Dookie, JEW, and Rage Against the Machine though!

[nate]

Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

So if it sells then it's working?

It's probably the measure with the most objectivity, yes.

Not that sales are totally objective.

But otherwise, it's simply a matter of taste.

[RichRed]

Originally Posted by Revering4Blue

Not their best work by a long shot, but, IMHO, not their worst.

"Invisible Touch" was a sell-out tune if there ever was one. The sappy "In Too Deep" didn't do anything for me, either.

Of course it's a personal thing, and there's plenty of Genesis that I like and plenty that I don't like, but something about the sound of that "I Can't Dance" song always makes me want to crawl out of my skin. It's like nails on a chalkboard.

And at the risk of seeming stuck in the past, I also nominate the entire "Top Gun" soundtrack as supremely worthy of cringe.

For more recent stuff, anything by Three Doors Down, and while I realize it's low-hanging fruit, Nickelback. Also, someone mentioned Train earlier. That song "Hey Soul Sister" - bleccchhhh.

[*BaseClogger*]

Originally Posted by nate

It's probably the measure with the most objectivity, yes.

Not that sales are totally objective.

But otherwise, it's simply a matter of taste.

I agree.

But why is it we are so quick to distinguish film based on quality but have difficulty doing the same with music?

[Dom Heffner]

Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

I'm gonna start a thread about cringe-worthy standup comedians and then bring up Mitch Hedberg...

You started a coughing fit with that one...great stuff. I about slipped off my chair lol....

Yeah, I love talking smack with music. I do.

I think I once compared Radiohead to a garden hoe being strung across a violin.

Or something like that. It's also funny to hear Wonderful Monds rag on Rolling Stone because I rag on them too because they five star every single album from bands he loves.

You will find no bigger fan of the Boss than I. Wrecking Ball isn't a four or five star record. Same with all the Dylan stuff. And they rank him above the Stones on theeir greatest artist list. No. DylAn isn't better than the Stones. Nirvama isn't better than Springsteen.

And the bashing of Phil Collins should be punishable by law.

[*BaseClogger*]

Originally Posted by Dom Heffner

You started a coughing fit with that one...great stuff. I about slipped off my chair lol....

Yeah, I love talking smack with music. I do.

I think I once compared Radiohead to a garden hoe being strung across a violin.

Or something like that. It's also funny to hear Wonderful Monds rag on Rolling Stone because I rag on them too because they five star every single album from bands he loves.

You will find no bigger fan of the Boss than I. Wrecking Ball isn't a four or five star record. Same with all the Dylan stuff. And they rank him above the Stones on theeir greatest artist list. No. DylAn isn't better than the Stones. Nirvama isn't better than Springsteen.

And the bashing of Phil Collins should be punishable by law.

My biggest criticism of Rolling Sonte, other than their clear bias in their lists towards music from the 1960s and 1970s, is that they don't stick to their reviews. They famously gave Nevermind three stars out of five when it was released, but now have it listed as five out of five. A publication loses all credibility at that point IMO...

[kaldaniels]

Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

My biggest criticism of Rolling Sonte, other than their clear bias in their lists towards music from the 1960s and 1970s, is that they don't stick to their reviews. They famously gave Nevermind three stars out of five when it was released, but now have it listed as five out of five. A publication loses all credibility at that point IMO...

Drives me nuts as well. And unfortunately now you see (as Dom mentioned) the Springsteens and the Dylans getting stellar reviews just so that the reviewer won't be on the wrong side of history. (Should the album take off)

[Dom Heffner]

Sorry for the typos: my ipad doesn't cooperate.

I love Roger Ebert because he gave Halloween 4 stars out of the chute.

That took some guts and some insight.

It's a great film- among the best.

[Dom Heffner]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Drives me nuts as well. And unfortunately now you see (as Dom mentioned) the Springsteens and the Dylans getting stellar reviews just so that the reviewer won't be on the wrong side of history. (Should the album take off)

Springsteen and Dylan are among the greatest of all time (and I can say that as someone who doesn't "get" Dylan and who is perfectly fine criticizing him), but not everything they do is great. You have to know that as a music critic. People with vast catalogs have crappy stuff. That's what I say to those who bash Phil Collins. Yes, there is some crap there. But good lord, the man dominated the music scene for close to ten years- there's massive talent there, and it's pretty foolish to bring up the Disney stuff to define someone.

I used to work with a guy who worshipped Jimi Hendrix and could not stop bashing Bob Seger.

Here's the thing: I can say that from a critical standpoint that Hendrix is better (if you agree that art is more important than accessebility).

But if you are asking me what I enjoy listening to more- aor what would I rather have with me on a long car ride- dude, I'm taking Seger and it isn't close. I listen to Night Moves and hear my life. I relate to it, it brings me to different chapters in my life. That's the reason I listen to music- for the melody, for the lyrics that reflect who I am, and the combination of those two things just takes you back. Music is better than pictures for nostalgia for me. And while Jimi Hendrix is a great guitarist, it doesn't satisy why I listen to music.

And really- Taylor Swift gets at that with folks. You don't sell a million plus records in a week, and only appeal to teenage girls. We all had relationships at that age, we all had those feelings of heartbreak, secret crushes, success, failings. For me she captures a lot of that. Again, I wouldn't put that up against Zeppelin, but I wouldn't put Seger up against Hendrix either.

It all has its place, and I can recognize that something is good for its genre.

[*BaseClogger*]

Originally Posted by Dom Heffner

Springsteen and Dylan are among the greatest of all time (and I can say that as someone who doesn't "get" Dylan and who is perfectly fine criticizing him), but not everything they do is great. You have to know that as a music critic. People with vast catalogs have crappy stuff. That's what I say to those who bash Phil Collins. Yes, there is some crap there. But good lord, the man dominated the music scene for close to ten years- there's massive talent there, and it's pretty foolish to bring up the Disney stuff to define someone.

I used to work with a guy who worshipped Jimi Hendrix and could not stop bashing Bob Seger.

Here's the thing: I can say that from a critical standpoint that Hendrix is better (if you agree that art is more important than accessebility).

But if you are asking me what I enjoy listening to more- aor what would I rather have with me on a long car ride- dude, I'm taking Seger and it isn't close. I listen to Night Moves and hear my life. I relate to it, it brings me to different chapters in my life. That's the reason I listen to music- for the melody, for the lyrics that reflect who I am, and the combination of those two things just takes you back. Music is better than pictures for nostalgia for me. And while Jimi Hendrix is a great guitarist, it doesn't satisy why I listen to music.

And really- Taylor Swift gets at that with folks. You don't sell a million plus records in a week, and only appeal to teenage girls. We all had relationships at that age, we all had those feelings of heartbreak, secret crushes, success, failings. For me she captures a lot of that. Again, I wouldn't put that up against Zeppelin, but I wouldn't put Seger up against Hendrix either.

It all has its place, and I can recognize that something is good for its genre.

Dom, we haven't always seen eye-to-eye in this thread, but I agree with everything you just typed. Excellent post!

EDIT: I'm still gonna choose Hendrix, but I've always been an instruments guy. I think there is a lot more emotion that can be released from a guitar than can be expressed in lyrics. Just my opinion. But that doesn't mean I can't agree with your post.