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11-13-2012, 10:49 AM
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Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
The rules: You cannot add more than $20MM to the 2013 or 2014 payroll. Three moves or less. Try to keep it as realistic as possible.
1. Trade Leake, Gregorius, Heisey and Corcino for Justin Upton 2. Sign Grady Sizemore to a 1 year, $3MM contract 3. Sign Ryan Madson (or Joakim Soria) to a 1 year, $6MM contract Opening Day Roster CF Sizemore/Stubbs platoon (keeps Sizemore healthy, keeps Stubbs vs LHP) 2B Phillips 1B Votto LF J.Upton RF Bruce 3B Frazier C Mesoraco/Hanigan SS Cozart (pop at the bottom of the order, and batting ahead of the pitcher could help boost his OBP) SP Cueto SP Latos SP Bailey SP Arroyo SP Chapman/Cingrani (these two should be able to throw roughly 100-125 IP each, with the other one continuing to "stretch out" in the minors or in a long relief role) BP LeCure BP Hoover BP Arredondo/Simon/Cingrani? BP Masset SU Marshall CL Madson or Soria *In 2014, Hamilton takes over in CF/leadoff (or sooner if Sizemore can't stay healthy), and Marshall or Hoover takes over closing duties.
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11-13-2012, 12:40 PM
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Re: Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
Chapman, Corcino, Neftali Soto, Lutz, Yorman Rodriguez to Marlins for Giancarlo Stanton.
  Heisey and Sharky Rogers to Indians for 1 year rental of Choo. Re-sign Madson and Broxton for bullpen. CF Choo 2B Phillips 1B Votto LF Stanton RF Bruce 3B Frazier C Hanigan/Navarro SS Cozart SP Cueto SP Latos SP Arroyo SP Bailey SP Leake CL Madson RP Broxton RP Marshall RP Hoover RP Arredondo RP Ondrusek RP Lecure
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11-13-2012, 12:57 PM
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Re: Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
Deal Leake, Corcino, and Ondrusek to Rockies for Dexter Fowler.
Sign Lance Berkman to a one-year, $6 million contract. Sign free agent RP Ryan Madson to a two-year, $15 million, backloaded contract. Fowler CF Phillips 2B Votto 1B Berkman LF Bruce RF Frazier 2B Hanigan C Cozart SS Cueto Latos Chapman/ Corcino Bailey Arroyo Madson Hoover Marshall LeCure Arredondo Simon Massett Corcino Mesoraco C Heisey OF Paul OF H. Rodriguez PH/ 3B Gregorius SS/ 2B When Berkman's gimpy, some combination of Henry Rodriguez, Todd Frazier, Chris Heisey, and Xavier Paul take over in LF and 3B. Ride the hot hand. Weak bench. Great starting pitching. Good health from the corners, continued progression of Bruce, Frazier, Cozart key to two pennants in a row.
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11-13-2012, 01:08 PM
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Re: Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
1. Steal Underpants
2. 3. Win
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11-13-2012, 02:03 PM
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Re: Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
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11-13-2012, 02:03 PM
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11-13-2012, 02:10 PM
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I don't see the D'Backs getting much more than a young starting pitcher with a proven track record (who could be their #3), a young major league ready starting SS, a top 50 SP prospect and a major league OF.
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11-13-2012, 02:24 PM
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11-13-2012, 02:26 PM
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I like your proposed team up to about the seventh inning. I would hate to go into the season with your proposed bullpen, however. Too many guys coming off major injuries. But the first six or seven innings would be fun. Last edited by Kc61; 11-13-2012 at 02:32 PM. |
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11-13-2012, 02:36 PM
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Re: Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
I haven't figured out three moves of doom yet. For instance, I'm not 100% sure what the proper deal for Fowler is. Probably still costs Homer Bailey, which I'd pay gladly if I knew that the plan was to put Chapman into the rotation (in which case the Reds need to do some bullpen shopping). And would Stubbs be in that deal? If a prospect like Corcino wre in there what could the Reds get in addition to Fowler? There's lots of dominoes involved with that particular move.
In the meantime, a simple CF solution might be Nyjer Morgan. His career slash line vs. RHPs is .297/.352/.385. The Reds could platoon him with Stubbs at the top of the lineup.
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11-13-2012, 02:50 PM
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Re: Your Offseason Plan in 3 Moves or Less
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11-13-2012, 02:54 PM
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As far as the 7th-9th innings go, I'd be happy going in with this year's bullpen but subbing Madson or Soria in for Chapman- what's wrong with that?
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11-13-2012, 03:03 PM
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And your bullpen also has Masset who missed the entire 2012 season with injury, after a weak 2011. I'm not entrusting a contending ballclub to such a bullpen. Maybe one injury rehab guy in middle relief. But not my closer and righty set up man. Last edited by Kc61; 11-13-2012 at 03:07 PM. |
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11-13-2012, 03:37 PM
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Add in LeCure and Marshall (as well as one of the FA acquisitions), and you leave two spots to: Arredondo/Simon/Masset/Ondrusek/some other cheap acquisition (and/or possibly Cingrani) I think it's a fairly safe bet that two guys can emerge from that bunch to be dependable relievers. Arredondo and Simon were certainly dependable relievers this year, so just pencil in those two if you don't trust Masset. As far as the closer goes, you could always try Hoover or Marshall if they can't return to form. I still think that leaves us with as good of a bullpen as any team out there, but of course you value bullpen higher than I do.
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11-13-2012, 03:56 PM
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I'm not sure he'll be fit enough to play DH. And how would Cris Carpenter....never mind. |
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