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Kc61 · 11-15-2012, 03:58 PM

Just read that the Cubs signed Navarro, who did such a nice job at backup catcher for the Reds late in the season.

Reported at $1.75 million, presumably a major league contract.

Bumstead · 11-15-2012, 04:00 PM

So Mesoraco won't spend next year in AAA? Hard to believe...

Bum

Tom Servo · 11-15-2012, 04:06 PM

You served us well with many big hits in 2012, Mr. Navarro. All the best.

p.s. just please don't kill us when we play the Cubs.

traderumor · 11-15-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

You served us well with many big hits in 2012, Mr. Navarro. All the best.

p.s. just please don't kill us when we play the Cubs.

He'll be Cubbiefied. No worries.

Vottomatic · 11-15-2012, 04:47 PM

I'd rather Mez spend a year at Louisvile and Navarro be our backup.

But good luck Dioner.

PuffyPig · 11-15-2012, 05:49 PM

Giving Navarro that much on a guaranteed major league contract isn't particularly wise. He has minor league insurance at AAA written all over him.

He struck out more, walked way less and had the highest BABIP and HR/FB rate of his career to get to that .755 OPS.

He parlayed a lucky 70 or so AB's into a pretty nice contract.

dougdirt · 11-15-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Giving Navarro that much on a guaranteed major league contract isn't particularly wise. He has minor league insurance at AAA written all over him.

He struck out more, walked way less and had the highest BABIP and HR/FB rate of his career to get to that .755 OPS.

He parlayed a lucky 70 or so AB's into a pretty nice contract.

To be fair, he hit darn well in AAA all year before those MLB at bats too.

dsmith421 · 11-15-2012, 05:57 PM

Hmm...local Cincy media types reporting that Jocketty had a deal with Navarro, his agent backed out at the last minute when this Cubs offer came along. What does this say about Mesoraco's position vis-a-vis the club right now?

PuffyPig · 11-15-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmith421

Hmm...local Cincy media types reporting that Jocketty had a deal with Navarro, his agent backed out at the last minute when this Cubs offer came along. What does this say about Mesoraco's position vis-a-vis the club right now?

The Cincy deal may well have been a minor league deal.

PuffyPig · 11-15-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

To be fair, he hit darn well in AAA all year before those MLB at bats too.

He also walked a ton more and struck out a ton less. He hit well because he was putting the ball into play and walking lots. He deserved to hit better at AAA.

traderumor · 11-15-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Giving Navarro that much on a guaranteed major league contract isn't particularly wise. He has minor league insurance at AAA written all over him.

He struck out more, walked way less and had the highest BABIP and HR/FB rate of his career to get to that .755 OPS.

He parlayed a lucky 70 or so AB's into a pretty nice contract.

That's pretty cheap for a team that was running Steve Clevenger and that other guy whose name I can't remember out there every day. I'd say Navarro will do fine in a role with the Cubs if they don't make him an everyday.

traderumor · 11-15-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmith421

Hmm...local Cincy media types reporting that Jocketty had a deal with Navarro, his agent backed out at the last minute when this Cubs offer came along. What does this say about Mesoraco's position vis-a-vis the club right now?

That the Reds liked Navarro as a 3rd catcher in AAA in case something happens at the major league level? A good organization trying to keep depth at an injury prone position?

dsmith421 · 11-15-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by traderumor

That the Reds liked Navarro as a 3rd catcher in AAA in case something happens at the major league level? A good organization trying to keep depth at an injury prone position?

It surprised me that Jocketty would say anything at all. It seems odd that Navarro would be happy to return to Cincinnati on a minor league deal if there was any chance of getting a huge raise and guaranteed major league time. I suppose I reckoned without the Cubs.

Vottomatic · 11-15-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmith421

What does this say about Mesoraco's position vis-a-vis the club right now?

Bingo.

PuffyPig · 11-15-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by traderumor

That's pretty cheap for a team that was running Steve Clevenger and that other guy whose name I can't remember out there every day. I'd say Navarro will do fine in a role with the Cubs if they don't make him an everyday.

I'm not sure that grossly overpaying for a AAA catcher because your regulars suck is the way to build a competent team.

Navarro didn't suddenly get better at his age after finding it hard to find even a minor league job last year.

BTW, the other Cubs catcher Castillo had an OPS of .754.

11-15-2012, 03:58 PM	#1
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,825	Cubs sign Navarro Just read that the Cubs signed Navarro, who did such a nice job at backup catcher for the Reds late in the season. Reported at $1.75 million, presumably a major league contract. Last edited by Kc61; 11-15-2012 at 04:43 PM.

11-15-2012, 04:00 PM	#2
Bumstead Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,266	Re: Cubs sign Navarro So Mesoraco won't spend next year in AAA? Hard to believe... Bum

11-15-2012, 04:06 PM	#3
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,394	Re: Cubs sign Navarro You served us well with many big hits in 2012, Mr. Navarro. All the best. p.s. just please don't kill us when we play the Cubs. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

11-15-2012, 04:47 PM	#5
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,771	Re: Cubs sign Navarro I'd rather Mez spend a year at Louisvile and Navarro be our backup. But good luck Dioner. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

11-15-2012, 05:49 PM	#6
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,698	Re: Cubs sign Navarro Giving Navarro that much on a guaranteed major league contract isn't particularly wise. He has minor league insurance at AAA written all over him. He struck out more, walked way less and had the highest BABIP and HR/FB rate of his career to get to that .755 OPS. He parlayed a lucky 70 or so AB's into a pretty nice contract.

11-15-2012, 05:57 PM	#8
dsmith421 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,069	Re: Cubs sign Navarro Hmm...local Cincy media types reporting that Jocketty had a deal with Navarro, his agent backed out at the last minute when this Cubs offer came along. What does this say about Mesoraco's position vis-a-vis the club right now?

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