Posey, Cabrera MVPs

[texasdave]

Buster Posey wins the NL MVP.

Miguel Cabrera wins the AL MVP.


http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

[Mutaman]

Sounds reasonable to me.

[kg112686]

-Bruce came in 10th with 46 points (2 fourth place votes, 1 fifth, 3 sixth, 2 seventh and 1 eighth)

-Chapman in 12th with 20 points (1 sixth place vote, 1 seventh, 1 eighth, 3 ninth and 2 tenth)

-Phillips in 13th with 18 points (2 sixth place votes, 1 seventh, 1 eighth and 1 tenth)

-Votto tied for 14th with 16 points (1 sixth place vote, 1 seventh, 1 ninth and 5 tenth)

-Cueto tied for 30th with 2 points (1 ninth place vote)

[The DARK]

I'm disappointed that Trout didn't win. I'd give a longer argument, but all the reasons have been well-documented elsewhere. The right guy won in the NL, though.

[Ironman92]

Not sure how Bruce got 2 fourth place votes or how Phillips got 2 sixth place ones.

[Mutaman]

Originally Posted by Ironman92

Not sure how Bruce got 2 fourth place votes or how Phillips got 2 sixth place ones.

I don't care much for arguing awards, all politics. And maybe I'm reading you wrong, but you seriously don't think BP's season was worth 2 6th place votes? Wow.

Would agree re Bruce.

[HometownHero]

Trout had a legit case but the TC is just too impressive to deny.

[New York Red]

Traditional stats win over Sabermetrics. Us older guys approve.

[TSJ55]

I'm no old timer (subjectively speaking) but it was the right call. Sabermetrics have their place, but like all numbers, they can be manipulated to serve either side. B. Olney reported the players he interviewed agreed it was Miggy. That's enough for me.

[Todd Gack]

I vehemently disagree with Miggy. But if you're going to argue, don't make the argument that Miggy is ahead of Trout because 'his team made the playoffs.'

[TSJ55]

Originally Posted by Todd Gack

I vehemently disagree with Miggy. But if you're going to argue, don't make the argument that Miggy is ahead of Trout because 'his team made the playoffs.'

Do you have thoughts not documented elsewhere? Why do you dislike the "playoffs" argument?

[webbbj]

Because trouts team won more games than the cabrera's.

The triple crown is great and all but its over rated. Its more about timing than anything. Many players have put up comparable or better numbers in the triple crown categories and haven't won a triple crown.

Trout is simply the best overall player and it wasnt particularly close. Trout should have won.

[PedroBourbon]

Originally Posted by HometownHero

Trout had a legit case but the TC is just too impressive to deny.

This is EXACTLY why it went to Miggy. Had it gone to Trout the arguements would've been "But how do you gloss over a triple crown winner?" or "I guess the triple crown doesn't mean anything."

Both well deserved I might add.

[HometownHero]

Originally Posted by webbbj

Because trouts team won more games than the cabrera's.

The triple crown is great and all but its over rated. Its more about timing than anything. Many players have put up comparable or better numbers in the triple crown categories and haven't won a triple crown.

Trout is simply the best overall player and it wasnt particularly close. Trout should have won.

He played 22 less games and it cost him the award, Cabrera had better overall numbers and he won. Trout had more runs by 20 and far more SB but had 62 fewer bases.

MLB Top 5
BA, Cabrera #2, Trout #4
Runs, Trout #1, Cabrera #2
Hits, Cabrera #2,
HR, Cabrera #1
RBI, Cabrera #1 by 11
TB, Cabrera #1 by 21
XBH, Cabrera #1
SLG, Cabrera #1 by .011, Trout #4
OPS, Cabrera #1 by .012, Trout #3
SB, Trout #1,
IBB, Cabrera #3 one off the leaders

[webbbj]

you forgot about defense and base running.