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cinreds21 · 11-09-2012, 04:16 AM

Well, in theory, Negron is more valuable. He can play short, second and the outfield and has above-average defense. Fellhauer can play all three outfield spots, but Negron has the possibility of being a utility player in the future. That being said, I would not be surprised if Negs was taken off the roster, but I was just answering your question. If it came down to it and someone had to be removed, my first guess would be Redmond. Then go from there.

redsof72 · 11-09-2012, 09:41 AM

Negron coming off a major injury...not sure of his progress...that could factor in. Negron is basically there to fill one role, the role he filled in 2012. He is a short-term emergency call-up who can play multiple positions well enough to put him on the field in the big leagues at any of them when you have some guys banged up. His value is his defensive versatility in a short-term situation. I don't think he would be looked at as a back-up for Cozart. They will re-sign Valdez or someone else.

Hard to compare to Fellhauer, whose primary role would be left-handed bat off the bench and utility outfielder. I like Fellhauer a little more than most but I am not sure they see a role for him. He is not real fast and won't hit many homers, but he is a good pure hitter, smart, can play all three outfield positions. Left-handed hitting Chris Denorfia or Brady Clark. I once asked Fellhauer who he thought he compared to and he told me the coach at CS Fullerton told him he was Mark Kotsay.

cinreds21 · 11-09-2012, 04:13 PM

Negron should be ready for Spring Training.

Gallen5862 · 11-19-2012, 08:30 PM

I wonder if the Reds are looking at the Rule V draft as a chance to fill some of the roster needs? What Pitchers or hitters could be stashed on the roster for a year? I could see a pitcher or two being stashed in the bullpen. I could also see the possibility of either a catcher or a infielder or outfielder being used as a pinch hitter or utility man. What does anyone think?

dougdirt · 11-19-2012, 08:46 PM

I think the Reds have enough of their own talent to protect to try and hide someone else's players on the roster.

The roster is at 33 right now. I would protect Guillon, Corcino, Partch, Ravin and as redsof72 said, I can't see YRod not being protected. So that leaves us at 38 on the 40 man before we even test free agency.

dougdirt · 11-20-2012, 01:10 AM

One guy missing from the list that I didn't notice until tonight is Carlos Contreras. I could see him being protected.

lollipopcurve · 11-20-2012, 07:04 AM

Crabbe has to be in the mix. Between him, Partch and Ravin, I have to think there's at least one guy the Reds feel can provide some legitimate BP depth in 2013. Ravin's high octane fastball is hard to dismiss, even though he's had almost no sustained success in his entire pro career.

JaxRed · 11-20-2012, 08:28 AM

I don't think they'd even think about Crabbe. Very mundane numbers and very average arm. Partch and Ravin might be. Partch looks like he could be a ftuture bullpen arm and Ravin has a big arm.

lollipopcurve · 11-20-2012, 08:38 AM

Quote:

I don't think they'd even think about Crabbe. Very mundane numbers and very average arm.

The story has shifted a little on Crabbe. He used to have a mid 90s fastball and very good slider. His stuff may have slipped, or he just conserves it some in order to gain a little command and log innings. I believe he struck out 150+ this season -- that's not the product of an average arm.

Chip R · 11-20-2012, 08:58 AM

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/11/20/1...1&feedID=10938

JaxRed · 11-20-2012, 09:55 AM

Chip's link has the names. (that was quick)

RHP Carlos Contreras from Class-A Bakersfield.
RHP Daniel Corcino from Double-A Pensacola.
LHP Ismael Guillon from Class-A Dayton.
RHP Curtis Partch from Double-A Pensacola.
RHP Josh Ravin from Double-A Pensacola.
OF Yorman Rodriguez from Class-A Dayton.

_Sir_Charles_ · 11-20-2012, 10:53 AM

Well, it looks like this is who's left vulnerable. Certainly a few names that could be in jeopardy.

Jesus Adames
Junior Arias
Theo Bowe
Nick Christiani
Jonathan Correa
Tim Crabbe
Juan Duran
Wilfrel Estevez
Josh Fellhauer
Mark Fleury
Justin Freeman
Stalin Gerson
Yovan Gonzalez
Blaine Howell
Travis Mattair
Andrew Means
Beau Mills
Brian Pearl
Cody Puckett
Radhames Quezada
Mark Serrano
Jefry Sierra
Danny Vicioso
Jamie Walczak

Gallen5862 · 11-20-2012, 11:53 AM

Who might the Reds be interested in claiming from other teams in the Rule V draft?

lollipopcurve · 11-20-2012, 12:00 PM

I like the group they protected. Some higher ceiling guys there. Will be fun to see how they audition in the spring.

camisadelgolf · 11-20-2012, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

Well, it looks like this is who's left vulnerable. Certainly a few names that could be in jeopardy.

Jesus Adames
Junior Arias
Theo Bowe
Nick Christiani
Jonathan Correa
Tim Crabbe
Juan Duran
Wilfrel Estevez
Josh Fellhauer
Mark Fleury
Justin Freeman
Stalin Gerson
Yovan Gonzalez
Mike Hessman
Blaine Howell
Travis Mattair
Andrew Means
Beau Mills
Brian Pearl
Cody Puckett
Radhames Quezada
Mark Serrano
Jefry Sierra
Marquez Smith
Danny Vicioso
Jamie Walczak

I added a couple recent signees to the list.

11-09-2012, 04:16 AM	#16
cinreds21 -The Insider- Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,833	Re: 40-man--Rule V Well, in theory, Negron is more valuable. He can play short, second and the outfield and has above-average defense. Fellhauer can play all three outfield spots, but Negron has the possibility of being a utility player in the future. That being said, I would not be surprised if Negs was taken off the roster, but I was just answering your question. If it came down to it and someone had to be removed, my first guess would be Redmond. Then go from there.

11-09-2012, 09:41 AM	#17
redsof72 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 832	Re: 40-man--Rule V Negron coming off a major injury...not sure of his progress...that could factor in. Negron is basically there to fill one role, the role he filled in 2012. He is a short-term emergency call-up who can play multiple positions well enough to put him on the field in the big leagues at any of them when you have some guys banged up. His value is his defensive versatility in a short-term situation. I don't think he would be looked at as a back-up for Cozart. They will re-sign Valdez or someone else. Hard to compare to Fellhauer, whose primary role would be left-handed bat off the bench and utility outfielder. I like Fellhauer a little more than most but I am not sure they see a role for him. He is not real fast and won't hit many homers, but he is a good pure hitter, smart, can play all three outfield positions. Left-handed hitting Chris Denorfia or Brady Clark. I once asked Fellhauer who he thought he compared to and he told me the coach at CS Fullerton told him he was Mark Kotsay.

11-09-2012, 04:13 PM	#18
cinreds21 -The Insider- Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,833	Re: 40-man--Rule V Negron should be ready for Spring Training.

11-19-2012, 08:30 PM	#19
Gallen5862 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wilmington,NC Posts: 5,323	Re: 40-man--Rule V I wonder if the Reds are looking at the Rule V draft as a chance to fill some of the roster needs? What Pitchers or hitters could be stashed on the roster for a year? I could see a pitcher or two being stashed in the bullpen. I could also see the possibility of either a catcher or a infielder or outfielder being used as a pinch hitter or utility man. What does anyone think?

11-19-2012, 08:46 PM	#20
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,713	Re: 40-man--Rule V I think the Reds have enough of their own talent to protect to try and hide someone else's players on the roster. The roster is at 33 right now. I would protect Guillon, Corcino, Partch, Ravin and as redsof72 said, I can't see YRod not being protected. So that leaves us at 38 on the 40 man before we even test free agency. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

11-20-2012, 01:10 AM	#21
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,713	Re: 40-man--Rule V One guy missing from the list that I didn't notice until tonight is Carlos Contreras. I could see him being protected. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

11-20-2012, 07:04 AM	#22
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,481	Re: 40-man--Rule V Crabbe has to be in the mix. Between him, Partch and Ravin, I have to think there's at least one guy the Reds feel can provide some legitimate BP depth in 2013. Ravin's high octane fastball is hard to dismiss, even though he's had almost no sustained success in his entire pro career. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

11-20-2012, 08:28 AM	#23
JaxRed Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 9,228	Re: 40-man--Rule V I don't think they'd even think about Crabbe. Very mundane numbers and very average arm. Partch and Ravin might be. Partch looks like he could be a ftuture bullpen arm and Ravin has a big arm.

11-20-2012, 08:58 AM	#25
Chip R Rally Onion! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 33,221	Re: 40-man--Rule V http://www.foxsportsohio.com/11/20/1...1&feedID=10938 __________________ The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

11-20-2012, 09:55 AM	#26
JaxRed Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 9,228	Re: 40-man--Rule V Chip's link has the names. (that was quick) RHP Carlos Contreras from Class-A Bakersfield. RHP Daniel Corcino from Double-A Pensacola. LHP Ismael Guillon from Class-A Dayton. RHP Curtis Partch from Double-A Pensacola. RHP Josh Ravin from Double-A Pensacola. OF Yorman Rodriguez from Class-A Dayton.

11-20-2012, 10:53 AM	#27
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,376	Re: 40-man--Rule V Well, it looks like this is who's left vulnerable. Certainly a few names that could be in jeopardy. Jesus Adames Junior Arias Theo Bowe Nick Christiani Jonathan Correa Tim Crabbe Juan Duran Wilfrel Estevez Josh Fellhauer Mark Fleury Justin Freeman Stalin Gerson Yovan Gonzalez Blaine Howell Travis Mattair Andrew Means Beau Mills Brian Pearl Cody Puckett Radhames Quezada Mark Serrano Jefry Sierra Danny Vicioso Jamie Walczak __________________

11-20-2012, 11:53 AM	#28
Gallen5862 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wilmington,NC Posts: 5,323	Re: 40-man--Rule V Who might the Reds be interested in claiming from other teams in the Rule V draft?

11-20-2012, 12:00 PM	#29
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,481	Re: 40-man--Rule V I like the group they protected. Some higher ceiling guys there. Will be fun to see how they audition in the spring. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

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