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Old 11-25-2012, 08:00 PM   #181
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Ugh what a tease. Was hoping this was for Justin. No interest in BJ, he's a glorified (and expensive) Stubbs.
Not that crazy about the Bossman either, but I would almost guarantee the Reds are the mystery 3rd team.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:36 PM   #182
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Not that crazy about the Bossman either, but I would almost guarantee the Reds are the mystery 3rd team.
I think I have a better shot with Kate Upton than the Reds have with BJ. I'm guessing Philly, and if I had to guess, I'd say the Rangers are the mystery team..
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:55 PM   #183
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I'd be very happy if they signed BJ Upton. Don't think they'll do it, but I think the best may be ahead for BJ.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:50 PM   #184
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I'd be very happy if they signed BJ Upton. Don't think they'll do it, but I think the best may be ahead for BJ.
.315 OBP the last four years including .298 last year. Please tell me how that helps the Reds, especially with a $75MM price tag??
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:42 PM   #185
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Not that crazy about the Bossman either, but I would almost guarantee the Reds are the mystery 3rd team.

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Old 11-25-2012, 10:59 PM   #186
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.315 OBP the last four years including .298 last year. Please tell me how that helps the Reds, especially with a $75MM price tag??
He's an outstanding fielder and base runner with power. His price tag is waaaaaaay too high, but he's an above average player in his prime. I agree the Reds need more OBP, but it's not like this guy won't help the team win.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:23 PM   #187
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He's an outstanding fielder and base runner with power. His price tag is waaaaaaay too high, but he's an above average player in his prime. I agree the Reds need more OBP, but it's not like this guy won't help the team win.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:55 PM   #188
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The Nats strike me as Upton's best fit.
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.315 OBP the last four years including .298 last year. Please tell me how that helps the Reds, especially with a $75MM price tag??
In the leadoff spot, Reds hitters put up .208/.254/.327/.581 this season. Upton would be a significant upgrade over that.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:01 AM   #191
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.315 OBP the last four years including .298 last year. Please tell me how that helps the Reds, especially with a $75MM price tag??
He's had some big OBP years too. I realize the trend is downward, but he's still young, and playing in GABP, in the middle of the Reds lineup would transform his offensive game, I think.

Don't really care about the money -- it's not like they'd be slashing payroll elsewhere to make Upton fit.

Very doubtful it happens, and the rumor itself may be completely false, but as others have said this player is an immediate upgrade who still has a lot of upside.
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He's had some big OBP years too. I realize the trend is downward, but he's still young, and playing in GABP, in the middle of the Reds lineup would transform his offensive game, I think.

Don't really care about the money -- it's not like they'd be slashing payroll elsewhere to make Upton fit.

Very doubtful it happens, and the rumor itself may be completely false, but as others have said this player is an immediate upgrade who still has a lot of upside.
The last time he had a good OBP, subprime mortgages were a good asset to buy. Reds need a leadoff hitter, Upton can't help there, and a lot of his so-called value is tied to a position that Hamilton should be playing by next year at the latest. Please pass Walt (although I do like him better than Bourn).
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I think the Reds should just stand pat unless they can get a young, under control, LFer who could bat cleanup such as Myers or Stanton. I can't see them adding alot of payroll. And I don't see anyone out there that really fits. It seems like alot of teams are trying to unload bad contracts.
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I think the Reds should just stand pat unless they can get a young, under control, LFer who could bat cleanup such as Myers or Stanton. I can't see them adding alot of payroll. And I don't see anyone out there that really fits. It seems like alot of teams are trying to unload bad contracts.
Are you saying stand pat with Ludwick?

Or stand pat with no starting LF, but using bench players?

The idea that they should go into next season with Stubbs, Heisey, and XPaul in LF and CF is, well, disturbing.
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Are you saying stand pat with Ludwick?

Or stand pat with no starting LF, but using bench players?

The idea that they should go into next season with Stubbs, Heisey, and XPaul in LF and CF is, well, disturbing.
Yeah, I guess I assumed they could re-sign Ludwick.

Honestly, I'd rather have Willingham, if we have to get a veteran.

My dream would be to get a Myers or a Stanton, like so many other teams.
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