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11-27-2012, 06:04 PM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
My take is that if they're going to spend money on an effective pitcher, I can make peace with that. Plus this perhaps paves the way for Chapman in the rotation, where he perhaps might be awesome. I like awesome.
Also, like Benihana, I suspect the Reds still might have plenty of cash to go after a bat or two.
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11-27-2012, 07:12 PM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
They aren't going to let Chapman go to the rotation without a proven closer. Broxton is a proven closer. They aren't going to do it if it breaks the budget and prohibits them from addressing other needs...
I know when they signed Marshall, the thought was he could be the closer of the future, but he thrives in the setup role, and that's proven. The Reds have been smart in recent years. I trust them to continue that trend. It's nice to say that.
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11-28-2012, 12:21 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
I'm just wondering.. not calling anyone out.. but of all the FA relievers available, is there really anyone better than Broxton out there? There might be a guy or two that I'm not thinking of, but giving the best reliever on the market a 3 year deal when he's only 28 .. the downside seems pretty minimal, barring injury.
I think we're all conditioned into having to patch a pitching staff together based on reclamation projects, inviting 6 relievers to spring training and hoping 2 will be effective.. It's kind of nice to lock down guys like Marshall and Broxton. Sure we got guys like Hoover and LeCure, but there's plenty of important middle innings for them to pitch over the course of the season. Going into the offseason, we needed at least one more proven reliever and a 3b/LF.. Might as well sign Broxton and check one task off the list (as opposed to the risk of having to trade prospects later to patch the bullpen)
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11-28-2012, 01:19 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
Heyman says it's a done deal. No terms, but he says "at least three years." Maybe Brox was more concerned with years than salary.
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11-28-2012, 01:49 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
So. Chapman to the rotation. Redmond signed as a backup, he's a starter. This Broxton signing could open the door to some moves.
A trade by the Reds of a starting pitcher is likely to come down soon, I'd guess. Maybe already agreed upon. Leake is the obvious candidate. I guess Arroyo could go in a cost cutting move. But I'd guess Leake. I'm guessing the Reds will now be fairly active at the Winter Meetings next week. |
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11-28-2012, 01:52 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
I'm happy. Broxton may (or may not) be a little expensive, but just like after buying anything for a good chunk of change, after time and many uses you forget about the price tag and really appreciate what you have. Barring blown saves.
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11-28-2012, 07:22 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
Makes sense to me. Broxton is still young and may still have some recovery left from his TJ surgery. If so, he could become dominant again. And it's definitely time to see if Chapman can become a big league starter.
It'll be interesting now to see if they sacrifice talent for a leadoff guy with Hamilton on the doorstep. I'd rather see them bring in Willingham (or some other legit 4-hole hitter), but would not be surprised if they dealt for Coco Crisp.
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11-28-2012, 08:39 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
3 for $21M
Option for 2016.
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11-28-2012, 08:42 AM
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11-28-2012, 08:51 AM
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11-28-2012, 08:55 AM
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...e-to-deal.html
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11-28-2012, 09:00 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
Great deal for the Reds (assuming Broxton doesn't fall off a cliff). Reds pitching next year could be the best in the league.
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11-28-2012, 09:02 AM
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Re: Reds In Serious Talks With Jonathan Broxton
I'd certainly like to see Broxton show up to ST in "the best shape of his life."
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