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Old 12-02-2012, 09:04 AM   #1
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Giancarlo Stanton

I'm bored, and I saw them bantering about on the Sundeck what it would take to get him, and thought it might make for some interesting proposals.

They think the conversation starts with Hamilton. I don't do the deal if it does.

According to the Cincinnati Reds website, here are their top 20 prospects:

1. Hamilton
2. Stephenson
3. Cingrani
4. Corcino
5. Gregorius
6. Travieso
7. Lamarre
8. Lotzkar
9. Soto, Neftali
10. Wright, Ryan
11. Buckley, Sean
12. Greene, Brodie
13. Romano, Sal
14. Winker, Jesse
15. Cisco, Drew
16. Rodriguez, Henry
17. Rosa, Gabriel
18. Waldrop, Kyle
19. Rodriguez, Yorman
20. Garrett, Amir

I'm surprised Donald Lutz isn't on there. But oh well.

First off, I'd consider trading them Chapman, and not Hamilton. I'd love to not trade either. But if I trade them Chapman, then the rest of the compensation won't be that much.

1. Offer them 1 of either Leake/Bailey. If they're trying to keep down payroll, they choose Leake.
2. Ondrusek, Stubbs (throw-in).
3. Stephenson, Corcino, Gregorius, Lamarre, Lotzkar, Soto, Lutz, Yorman Rodriguez, Juan Duran.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:22 AM   #2
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

Hamilton, Leake, Corcino and Soto
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:22 AM   #3
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

I'll play.

Heisey, Mesoraco, Corcino, Soto and Lotzkar for Stanton and Rob Brantley
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:26 AM   #4
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I'll play.

Heisey, Mesoraco, Corcino, Soto and Lotzkar for Stanton and Rob Brantley
Yeah, I forgot about Mez. I'd include him in the deal.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:29 AM   #5
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

What if the Marlins would accept Chapman and Hamilton straight up for Stanton? Would you do that deal?
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:36 AM   #6
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

Hamilton and Bailey as the centerpieces. Or Chapman alone as centerpiece.

Otherwise it would be too easy for another team that wants him to top the Reds offer.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:37 AM   #7
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What if the Marlins would accept Chapman and Hamilton straight up for Stanton? Would you do that deal?
If Stanton would extend right now, I would do that.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:02 PM   #8
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

My offer starts with Chapman and Hamilton.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:13 PM   #9
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

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My offer starts with Chapman and Hamilton.
I don't mean anything personal when I say this, but that's absurd.

Stanton isn't worth that. He's good but that's a ransom.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:43 PM   #10
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Yes he is.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:47 PM   #11
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Chapman is going nowhere!!
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

I really believe Chapman will be going somewhere.
To the Reds starting rotation that is! LOL
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:46 PM   #13
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Re: Giancarlo Stanton

I go back and forth. I really want to see Billy Hamilton play for the Reds. But if Hamilton and a couple of other good prospects could get Stanton, I'd really have to consider it.

And if we could get Fowler to leadoff to go along with it.............I don't think I'd be too upset.
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I'd hesitate more about dealing Chapman than Hamilton, in general. But I would lose zero sleep about making either one the centerpiece for a Stanton deal. Both? I'd have to think about that for awhile...
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I don't mean anything personal when I say this, but that's absurd.

Stanton isn't worth that. He's good but that's a ransom.
Um Stanton is a generational talent. He's definitely worth it. He's putting up Hank Aaron and Griffey Jr. numbers. You're telling me you wouldn't move heaven and earth to acquire either of them after they only spent two years I'm the majors?
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