RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > Baseball > The Sun Deck

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-04-2012, 09:10 PM   #1
Hondo
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Weatherford, Texas
Posts: 2,124
Jacoby Ellsbury

Now that Victorino and Gomes has signed with Boston... and Cody Ross peobably signing with Boston...

The Red Sox will be looking to move Jacoby Ellsbury who could come back healthy and put up 2011 numbers...

I think this is a shrewd move and Ellsbury could be had for a song...

IMHO... Trade for Ellsbury and Trade your Prospects (Not Billy Hamilton) plus a SS for Justin Upton and you win the NL Pennant.
Hondo is offline   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 12-04-2012, 09:21 PM   #2
[deleted]
[redacted]
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 275
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Just trade some guys and prospects and whatever for Jacoby Ellsbury and Justin Upton! Come on Walt, it's so obvious! The NL is basically ours.
[deleted] is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 09:27 PM   #3
Hondo
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Weatherford, Texas
Posts: 2,124
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Quote:
Originally Posted by [deleted] View Post
Just trade some guys and prospects and whatever for Jacoby Ellsbury and Justin Upton! Come on Walt, it's so obvious! The NL is basically ours.
Number 1. Don't act like that.

Number 2. Denard Span got 1 prospect, and Ellsbury is a reclamation project with a higher salary. Will be a salary dump.

Number 3. Arizona is trading Justin Upton, and they want Andrelton Simmons ALONE from Atlanta... So if you offer Cozart, a GG Caliber SS with Pop and Cingrani along with Soto and some other prospects... This gets done...

Number 4. Get a Clue.
Hondo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 09:33 PM   #4
Larkin88
Member
 
Larkin88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 494
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Larkin88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 09:49 PM   #5
dkamberi25
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 15
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Adding Ellsbury and Upton to Votto, Phillips, Bruce and Fraizer would give the Reds one of the filthiest 1-6 in all of baseball. To snag both guys I would have to imagine Hamilton would be moved as Ellsbury would be the teams shortstop for the next 3-5 years.
dkamberi25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #6
Redsfansince72
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 195
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Quote:
Originally Posted by dkamberi25 View Post
Adding Ellsbury and Upton to Votto, Phillips, Bruce and Fraizer would give the Reds one of the filthiest 1-6 in all of baseball. To snag both guys I would have to imagine Hamilton would be moved as Ellsbury would be the teams shortstop for the next 3-5 years.
you mean he would play CF right? Hamilton isnt going anywhere
Redsfansince72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2012, 10:59 PM   #7
HometownHero
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,849
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Jacoby Ellsbury is the best fit of all the CF we could get IMO, when he's healthy he is a stud if we are going to part with pitching he's the guy to do it for.
HometownHero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 09:32 AM   #8
dkamberi25
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 15
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redsfansince72 View Post
you mean he would play CF right? Hamilton isnt going anywhere
Yea, thats a goof on my part meant CF.

While I understand the reluctance to part with Hamilton, if the Reds are targeting both Upton and Ellsbury in trades this offseason I would have to imagine Hamilton would be part of one of those deals. I don't envision a senario where we could get both those guys and not ship Hamilton because you know guys like Cueto, Latos, Phillips, Votto and Bruce aren't going to be involved.

Also with Ellsbury you have a guy who would be the teams CF for a good 3-5 years. Injuries are a concern, but if you make the moves, your banking on him being healthy. So even if you can keep Hamilton in aquiring Upton and Ellsbury, where does he play. As long as guys stay healthy you have Bruce/Ellsbury/Upton as your outfield for up to 5 years.
dkamberi25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:07 AM   #9
Redlegs Homer
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 82
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

He's sort of injury prone, but even while playing hurt last year he didn't do that bad. Great fielder, can hit for average and power, quick, he's a great player. I'm not sure what the Red Sox are asking for though. How much would Walt be willing to part with to get him?
Redlegs Homer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:30 AM   #10
americanoutlaw1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 47
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Quote:
Originally Posted by dkamberi25 View Post
Yea, thats a goof on my part meant CF.

While I understand the reluctance to part with Hamilton, if the Reds are targeting both Upton and Ellsbury in trades this offseason I would have to imagine Hamilton would be part of one of those deals. I don't envision a senario where we could get both those guys and not ship Hamilton because you know guys like Cueto, Latos, Phillips, Votto and Bruce aren't going to be involved.

Also with Ellsbury you have a guy who would be the teams CF for a good 3-5 years. Injuries are a concern, but if you make the moves, your banking on him being healthy. So even if you can keep Hamilton in aquiring Upton and Ellsbury, where does he play. As long as guys stay healthy you have Bruce/Ellsbury/Upton as your outfield for up to 5 years.
Ellsbury has 1 year before free agnecy and Upton has 3 years... Even though 5 years with that trio would be nice.
americanoutlaw1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 01:45 PM   #11
dkamberi25
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 15
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Quote:
Originally Posted by americanoutlaw1 View Post
Ellsbury has 1 year before free agnecy and Upton has 3 years... Even though 5 years with that trio would be nice.
I was aware of Upton having 3 years left but did not know that Ellsbury only has one. That does change things some. But we also have Arroyo coming off the books the same year Ellsbury would become a FA, so we could use the Arroyo money on Ellsbury and with Upton in three years, if the budget is higher and we can fit him in great, if not than you can look to make some sort of deal at the deadline.
dkamberi25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 02:35 PM   #12
herbdizzle
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 117
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

If you could get him for 1 solid player straight up, someone like Gregorius, Cingrani, Leake and a little filler I'd do it in a heartbeat.
herbdizzle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 03:36 PM   #13
jimbo
Member
 
jimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Troy, OH
Posts: 2,538
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Take it with a grain of salt, but Jones just said on WLW that he has a solid source who is claiming that the Reds are close to dealing for Ellsbury.
jimbo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 03:42 PM   #14
americanoutlaw1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 47
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
Take it with a grain of salt, but Jones just said on WLW that he has a solid source who is claiming that the Reds are close to dealing for Ellsbury.
He seems pretty jacked up about it... Don't know if it has any legs, but he clearly is acting like it is for real
americanoutlaw1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 03:59 PM   #15
Larkin88
Member
 
Larkin88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 494
Re: Jacoby Ellsbury

For those of us unlucky enough to have an AM radio at work, were any details shared? My eyebrow is raised.
Larkin88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25