RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > Miscellaneous > The Tavern

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-08-2012, 03:53 PM   #286
dabvu2498
Yay!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Middletown, Ohio
Posts: 7,262
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
That's was a long time ago before Miles and Saban transformed the west. What has he done recently besides almost getting fired from Texas Tech after getting fired from Ole Miss.

Don't get me wrong, he'll win some games at UC but Dantonio, Kelly, and Jones were all more exciting hires with more potential at that time.
He didn't get fired at Ole Miss.

And I'm not totally sure, but IIRC, his last couple recruiting classes at TTU have been pretty highly rated. 20-17 record, 2 bowl games... That ain't all bad after the dumpster fire that TTU was after the Leach era.

It's also worth noting that Tuberville was 3-2 against Saban while NS was at LSU.

I don't know if Tuberville is great, but saying "he's always been a mediocre coach" isn't exactly correct either.
__________________
When all is said and done more is said than done.
dabvu2498 is online now   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 12-08-2012, 03:55 PM   #287
WMR
GR8NESS
 
WMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
Posts: 16,910
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Would MUCH rather have my coach be Tommy Tuberville than Charlie Strong. Fact.

PROVEN PERFORMANCE.

Stop trying to imply that I think Charlie Strong is a horrible coach. He is very average. Period.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)


Last edited by WMR; 12-08-2012 at 04:40 PM.
WMR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 04:00 PM   #288
LoganBuck
I hate the Cubs
 
LoganBuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 5,585
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Tuberville has been a mess for awhile. This strikes me as hiring the sizzle, not the steak.
__________________
Whenever you get mad over a called strike or ball on a close pitch, it's the equivalent of being mad at the QB pump-faking one time before throwing a pass in your average NFL game. ---Caveat Emperor
LoganBuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 06:04 PM   #289
joshnky
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,591
Quote:
Originally Posted by WMR View Post
Would MUCH rather have my coach be Tommy Tuberville than Charlie Strong. Fact.

PROVEN PERFORMANCE.

Stop trying to imply that I think Charlie Strong is a horrible coach. He is very average. Period.
We'll see.
joshnky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 07:10 PM   #290
jojo
Five Tool Fool
 
jojo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 16,575
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
I'm not sure how tight Petrino and Tuberville are -- apparently Petrino was kind of a snake (shocking, I know) during his time at Auburn and was interviewing for jobs without even a courtesy call to Tuberville.

Now...Gene Chizik was the DC at Auburn under TT. I could definitely see him getting a look for that position at UC.
He was also interviewing or TT's job! (see jet gate). Tommy never got over tht either. It would be a little surreal or TT to hire BP.

That's a rumor I'd need to see happen before giving it any credence whatsoever. And even then, I'd still doubt it was true.
__________________
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
jojo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:43 PM   #291
wolfboy
On the brink
 
wolfboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: is everything
Posts: 2,488
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Love the Bucks and Cards fans belittling the hire. Thanks for checking in guys.
__________________
How do we know he's not Mel Torme?
wolfboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:00 PM   #292
cincrazy
Member
 
cincrazy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: South Vienna, OH
Posts: 4,136
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

I think it's a good move. Tuberville is a hell of a coach. Texas Tech was just an awful situation to walk into, he probably made a mistake in accepting the job in the first place. He was a very, very good, if not great, coach at Auburn. And Ole Miss.... I mean, who will win there anyways? He's a perfect fit for UC. I think he's a better coach than Butch Jones, and it's not particularly close. If Butch Jones is able to roll out an undefeated team in the SEC, then we'll talk.

UC lost their coach... and found a better one. Not bad for a day's work I'd say.
cincrazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 04:14 AM   #293
Brutus
Et tu, Brutus?
 
Brutus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
Posts: 8,939
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

I don't get all the hype about Tuberville. He's coached 17 seasons and only three of them had fewer than 4 losses.

He's a decent coach, and I think this is an OK hire. But that resume doesn't strike me as being worthy of all the superlatives.
__________________
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Brutus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 06:41 AM   #294
19braves77
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pensacola, Florida
Posts: 364
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

I predict a 9-3 record next year, 7-5, 6-6, and then 10-2. It was always up and down with Tubs even with Alabama and Georgia were terrible. White it is true that by 2008 all his starters from the 2004 squad were on a NFL roster, he needs to thank his staff for getting those players to Auburn. Good day game coach, knows nothing about offense, and a lazy recruiter.
__________________
http://diamondvisits.blogspot.com/ My Minor League stadium review site.
19braves77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #295
Matt700wlw
Making sense of it all
 
Matt700wlw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 26,131
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by 19braves77 View Post
I predict a 9-3 record next year, 7-5, 6-6, and then 10-2. It was always up and down with Tubs even with Alabama and Georgia were terrible. White it is true that by 2008 all his starters from the 2004 squad were on a NFL roster, he needs to thank his staff for getting those players to Auburn. Good day game coach, knows nothing about offense, and a lazy recruiter.
Tech's offense was #2 in the country this season....
__________________
An excited shade of Red
Matt700wlw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 11:58 AM   #296
jojo
Five Tool Fool
 
jojo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 16,575
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

UC fans will either love Tubs or hate him. Most will love him. Regardless he's a large personality who is always good for a quote. He's a very fiery kind of guy, very competitive. I think Cincy will love him especially if he's decided this is his last stop (his wife is from nearby in Indiana).

While at Auburn his teams had a reputation for slobber knocking... you knew you were in for a fight regardless of records, you never came into Jordan-Hare expecting to win, and while you may win, you'd still be feeling the game the following Friday. Players developed in his program too. I'm not sure how dedicated he is to recruiting at this point, but he can take a three star guy and coach him up to be a NFL player. That's perfect for Cincy because I don't care how good a staff recruits, in Ohio, it's getting the guys that OSU doesn't want (its one reason why 10 win seasons with a BIG 10 schedule by OSU just isn't that impressive).

We know that a good coach can win in Cincinnati. Tuberville is a good coach. All that remains to be seen IMHO is if he still has good legs under him and whether he'll implode. But having an AD that is clearly on his side, a general lack of boosters getting in his business, and a media market that frankly is kind of wussy gives this marriage a good chance of working out.

It will be interesting to see how he builds his staff and where Cincy ends up with the Big East seemingly in it's death throws... A solid staff that recruits like it's life depends upon it and a move to a better conference situation could be a huge deal for Cincinnati football.

Also, whatever conference that the Bearcats end up joining needs to demand that they significantly upgrade the football facilities. It's vital for Cincy's long term ability to compete IMHO.
__________________
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
jojo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 02:36 PM   #297
wolfboy
On the brink
 
wolfboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: is everything
Posts: 2,488
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Thanks for the info. jojo. I believe there will be an announcement re: facilities upgrades in the next week or so.
__________________
How do we know he's not Mel Torme?
wolfboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 02:50 PM   #298
paintmered
SERP Emeritus
 
paintmered's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,007
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Yes, Whit Babcock mentioned in Friday's presser that we'd be hearing about the facilities plan soon. The Board of Trustees meet on Tuesday, so perhaps we could hear something mid-week.
__________________
What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.

Last edited by paintmered; 12-09-2012 at 02:56 PM. Reason: Words, how do they work?
paintmered is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 02:58 PM   #299
19braves77
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pensacola, Florida
Posts: 364
Re: 2012 UC Football Official Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
Tech's offense was #2 in the country this season....
And I promise you that he had very little to do with it.
__________________
http://diamondvisits.blogspot.com/ My Minor League stadium review site.
19braves77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 03:23 PM   #300
WVRed
C-A-T-S CATS! CATS! CATS!
 
WVRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Almost Heaven
Posts: 8,421
Quote:
Originally Posted by 19braves77 View Post
And I promise you that he had very little to do with it.
That would be Neal Brown, and if he doesn't end up with a head coaching job he will likely be the offensive coordinator at Kentucky. He's from Kentucky and they are really making a run at him to run the offense.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by savafan View Post
I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.
WVRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25