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Hap · 12-10-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip R

The Reds HOF budget is separate from the Reds budget

Assuming this is true, then I believe that my $75 membership fee was enough of a donation.

SunDeck · 12-10-2012, 12:47 PM

I think it makes sense that Joe Morgan would be portrayed stealing a base. All the BRM guys were hitters, but only Morgan made second base nearly automatic if he reached first. If my memory serves correctly, whenever he was on first the television screen was nearly always split between the center field camera pointing in at the pitcher/batter and Morgan taking his lead.

cumberlandreds · 12-10-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SunDeck

I think it makes sense that Joe Morgan would be portrayed stealing a base. All the BRM guys were hitters, but only Morgan made second base nearly automatic if he reached first. If my memory serves correctly, whenever he was on first the television screen was nearly always split between the center field camera pointing in at the pitcher/batter and Morgan taking his lead.

You are correct. Also at Riverfront the scoreboard would be leading cheers of Go! Go! whenever Morgan reached first.

klw · 12-10-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve4192

If the Rose statue isn't diving head first into second base, I am going to be quite perturbed. That image embodies 'Charlie Hustle' like none other.

Third base. He would have to be diving into 3rd.

I guess home works too.

Vottomatic · 12-10-2012, 11:07 PM

Anything less than a statue of Rose bowling over Ray Fosse, would be unjust.

Steve4192 · 12-11-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vottomatic

Anything less than a statue of Rose bowling over Ray Fosse, would be unjust.

If we are going to include opposing players, I'd rather see a statue of Pete giving Bud Harrelson the business.

_Sir_Charles_ · 12-11-2012, 10:47 AM

I agree with the head first slide...but seriously...how do you make that a statue? Something has to connect to the base of it.

Steve4192 · 12-11-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_

I agree with the head first slide...but seriously...how do you make that a statue? Something has to connect to the base of it.

You make the statue from a shot that takes place a tenth of a second or so later, when Pete is belly down on the ground.

RedsManRick · 12-11-2012, 10:53 AM

The proposed statue doesn't exactly scream "Joe Morgan" to me.

George Anderson · 12-11-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

The proposed statue doesn't exactly scream "Joe Morgan" to me.

I think thats my problem with it to. The Bench statue screams "Bench" to me.

I think something as simply as Morgans batting stance would be cool.

SunDeck · 12-11-2012, 11:59 AM

I still think having him in the act of stealing is fine, but at the same time the prototype shown is pretty mundane. Having him in the act of making his jump...or in his lead-off, with both feet on the turf would be more uniquely Morgan-esque. Him in a batting stance is not very unique, but the picture cited above conjures Joe Morgan, possibly because it was a poster (which I had on my bedroom wall!).

Hap · 12-11-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve4192

If we are going to include opposing players, I'd rather see a statue of Pete giving Bud Harrelson the business.

But the Reds were losing that game and also lost the series. One could argue that Pete's actions woke up and fired up the entire Mets team and possibly the entire opponent's stadium.

RedEye · 12-11-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY

Morgan was much more than a base stealer. His bat was lethal, his defense superb, and his mind for the game unparalleled.

Absolutely. Maybe they should have a series of five statues! Not sure what the "mind for the game" one would look like though.

klw · 12-11-2012, 12:56 PM

Part of the problem with Morgan is there is not really an iconic image of him that easily translates his moment or skill set that can be put into a sculpture. The strongest image is the arm movement. In terms of photos these are the three that come to mind.
The first is him after swinging and there are a number of similar ones to this:

Then there is the 75 series.

And lastly:

One thought is that they could just do either the 75 or 76 team either in lineup or celebrating.

Add Sparky to that one of course.

Chip R · 12-11-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by klw

One thought is that they could just do either the 75 or 76 team either in lineup or celebrating.

Add Sparky to that one of course.

You mean like this?

12-10-2012, 12:47 PM	#17
SunDeck First Time Caller Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,224	Re: Joe Morgan Statue I think it makes sense that Joe Morgan would be portrayed stealing a base. All the BRM guys were hitters, but only Morgan made second base nearly automatic if he reached first. If my memory serves correctly, whenever he was on first the television screen was nearly always split between the center field camera pointing in at the pitcher/batter and Morgan taking his lead. __________________ Dusty Baker, second shooter. --Confirmed on Redszone.

12-10-2012, 11:07 PM	#20
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,732	Re: Joe Morgan Statue Anything less than a statue of Rose bowling over Ray Fosse, would be unjust. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

12-11-2012, 10:47 AM	#22
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,349	Re: Joe Morgan Statue I agree with the head first slide...but seriously...how do you make that a statue? Something has to connect to the base of it. __________________

12-11-2012, 10:53 AM	#24
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,907	Re: Joe Morgan Statue The proposed statue doesn't exactly scream "Joe Morgan" to me. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

12-11-2012, 11:59 AM	#26
SunDeck First Time Caller Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 5,224	Re: Joe Morgan Statue I still think having him in the act of stealing is fine, but at the same time the prototype shown is pretty mundane. Having him in the act of making his jump...or in his lead-off, with both feet on the turf would be more uniquely Morgan-esque. Him in a batting stance is not very unique, but the picture cited above conjures Joe Morgan, possibly because it was a poster (which I had on my bedroom wall!). __________________ Dusty Baker, second shooter. --Confirmed on Redszone.

12-11-2012, 12:56 PM	#29
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,280	Re: Joe Morgan Statue Part of the problem with Morgan is there is not really an iconic image of him that easily translates his moment or skill set that can be put into a sculpture. The strongest image is the arm movement. In terms of photos these are the three that come to mind. The first is him after swinging and there are a number of similar ones to this: Then there is the 75 series. And lastly: One thought is that they could just do either the 75 or 76 team either in lineup or celebrating. Add Sparky to that one of course.

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