2012 UC Football Official Thread

[wolfboy]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Were you signed to a 6 yr contract with Thriftway at the time?

Camisa's foray into free agency was more widely covered than A-Rod's first trip to the dog and pony show.

[IslandRed]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

It is that way for professional head coaches like the NFL and MLB. The Red Sox couldn't talk contract with John Farrell unless the Blue Jays OK'd it. I don't see why college contracts are handled differently

Because no one's made a rule against it. I guess the NCAA could if the member schools ever decided to vote for it, but every school that loses a coach under contract is a school that's about to swipe someone else's coach, so I guess they figure it evens out.

For what it's worth, most big coaching contracts have buyout provisions on both sides.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by IslandRed

Because no one's made a rule against it. I guess the NCAA could if the member schools ever decided to vote for it, but every school that loses a coach under contract is a school that's about to swipe someone else's coach, so I guess they figure it evens out.

For what it's worth, most big coaching contracts have buyout provisions on both sides.

Correct. All schools want to boast that their coach is signed for anywhere over 4 years so recruits can think that he'll be there for the recruit's full college career but in reality the school wants the ability to fire him in case "a situation" develops

[Reds Freak]

As stupid as the Big East has become, I'm excited about some of these schools coming to Nippert next year. Purdue, Boise State, UCF, UCONN, Louisville. Doesn't change the fact that UC needs to get out as quick as it can, but that's not a bad home slate.

[joshnky]

Originally Posted by Reds Freak

As stupid as the Big East has become, I'm excited about some of these schools coming to Nippert next year. Purdue, Boise State, UCF, UCONN, Louisville. Doesn't change the fact that UC needs to get out as quick as it can, but that's not a bad home slate.

Given that the basketball schools met today to discuss splitting from the Big East that home schedule might not happen.

[wolfboy]

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/12/11/3...tball-schedule

The road trip distance for each team's four conference games:

    San Diego State: 8,327 miles
    Boise State: 7,024
    Houston: 6,071
    Temple: 5,264
    Rutgers: 4,410
    UCF: 4,196
    Cincinnati: 4,117
    UConn: 3,943
    Louisville: 3,746
    Memphis: 3,650
    USF: 3,454
    SMU: 3,155

[Reds Freak]

Originally Posted by joshnky

Given that the basketball schools met today to discuss splitting from the Big East that home schedule might not happen.

Maybe. But if the league would dissolve, would it be immediate leaving all schools scrambling to fill schedules or join a conference? I have to believe next year's schedule is pretty safe.

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by joshnky

Given that the basketball schools met today to discuss splitting from the Big East that home schedule might not happen.

At this point it probably be better if they did. Then all parties involved can sit down and rethink what the goals are. The Big East has been grasping at straws since the 2nd raid (Pitt/Syracuse) to try and keep that sinking ship afloat. I personally would sit down and try to find a palpable 2 conference "best of" scenarios. Maybe try and come up with a football only conference to try and maximize tv dollars while everyone else stays home for the non revenue sports?

The travel will just be ungodly if they try and stretch from Connecticut to San Diego St and Florida to Boise.

[joshnky]

Originally Posted by Reds Freak

Maybe. But if the league would dissolve, would it be immediate leaving all schools scrambling to fill schedules or join a conference? I have to believe next year's schedule is pretty safe.

Yes, it seems likely that Maryland and Rutgers will resolve their lawsuits by agreeing to pay close to the full amount if they're allowed to leave in 2013. Then Louisville will move to the ACC using whatever terms Rutgers negotiated. The basketball schools have committed to make a decision prior to the 2013 season and the addition of the new schools. From what I've read they don't have much to lose by splitting given that the new media deal is looking pretty bad.

[joshnky]

Ultimately, this depends on Maryland's lawsuit. If they're willing to work something out with the ACC to get into the big ten early then realignment will occur in 2013. Given that its in both parties best interest to get this settled I think it will happen.

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by joshnky

Yes, it seems likely that Maryland and Rutgers will resolve their lawsuits by agreeing to pay close to the full amount if they're allowed to leave in 2013. Then Louisville will move to the ACC using whatever terms Rutgers negotiated. The basketball schools have committed to make a decision prior to the 2013 season and the addition of the new schools. From what I've read they don't have much to lose by splitting given that the new media deal is looking pretty bad.

I said in 03 they should have split and taken a collection of schools from the A-10 and pretty much be right back where they were, while the football schools could set their own agenda.

[camisadelgolf]

Originally Posted by wolfboy

Camisa's foray into free agency was more widely covered than A-Rod's first trip to the dog and pony show.

It's true. Gentlemen, hide your wives, sisters, daughters, etc.

[camisadelgolf]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Were you signed to a 6 yr contract with Thriftway at the time?

Six years? No. My point is that it's the system that's broken. Sure, the individuals are handling this unethically (for lack of a better word). But history has shown that people can't be trusted when it comes to money, so if you want to see change, some regulations will need to be enacted.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

Six years? No. My point is that it's the system that's broken. Sure, the individuals are handling this unethically (for lack of a better word). But history has shown that people can't be trusted when it comes to money, so if you want to see change, some regulations will need to be enacted.

My issue is with there being a contract. If you can negotiate and leave anytime you want, what good is a 6 yr contract?

[WMR]

The only way these contracts have any teeth is if there is a commensurately high buy out.