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Old 12-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #16
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Would this send Bruce to CF? Really would have liked to seen this prior to the Ludwick deal, but I certainly wouldn't complain.
I suppose you can't always do things in exactly the right order. Had Walt not moved in when he did on Ludwick, he may have lost him. And you never know what sorts of exchanges the Indians are having about Choo.
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Would this send Bruce to CF? Really would have liked to seen this prior to the Ludwick deal, but I certainly wouldn't complain.
No. The rumor says Choo would play CF.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #18
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I wish they wouldn't have gotten Ludwick if this is true...
I tend to agree, though I like the audacity of either Choo or Bruce in CF. I assume it would be Choo because Dusty's prime directive is the CF hits leadoff.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #19
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I suppose you can't always do things in exactly the right order. Had Walt not moved in when he did on Ludwick, he may have lost him. And you never know what sorts of exchanges the Indians are having about Choo.
Yeah, of course. That said, a 100 point boost in OBP from leadoff would certainly offset the defensive drop off.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:11 PM   #20
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Choo will be FA after 2013. Hopefully Reds make qualifying offer and get the picks. If he accepts, they can (hopefully) always trade Ludwick.
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Choo as a centerfielder? Color me skeptical. Bruce in center and Choo in right? That I could get behind. Would be less than ideal at both positions, but better than Choo in center, no?
Ya, I'm having trouble seeing Choo as an everyday centerfielder.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:12 PM   #22
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Ludwick needs his rest.

My guess is that Choo would play some CF and some LF.

Heisey would fill in at center when Ludwick rests, with Choo moving to LF.

That's my guess.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:12 PM   #23
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Choo will be FA after 2013. Hopefully Reds make qualifying offer and get the picks. If he accepts, they can (hopefully) always trade Ludwick.
Yep. The Reds would have him for 1 season and if they were to keep him they'd have to negotiate with Scott Boras.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:12 PM   #24
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Worst case Choo can't really play CF, he moves to LF and Hamilton takes over CF. Otherwise, they trade Ludwick and Heisey takes over CF. Either way I'll take it- it's better than the status quo.
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Ludwick needs his rest.

My guess is that Choo would play some CF and some LF.

Heisey would fill in at center when Ludwick rests, with Choo moving to LF.

That's my guess.
This makes sense too.
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

This would be perhaps the best of all possible upgrades to bridge the way to Hamilton's arrival.
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Worst case Choo can't really play CF, he moves to LF and Hamilton takes over CF. Otherwise, they trade Ludwick and Heisey takes over CF. Either way I'll take it- it's better than the status quo.
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

Despite the rumor being Choo in CF, they'd have plenty of time to make that decision later if they feel Bruce would be better there.
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Looking at BRef, I can't tell if Choo is a FA after 2013 or 2014. Anyone have a better grasp on it?
From Cot's (aka BP), he's in his final arb year (MLB service time of 5.119).

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1 year/$4.9M (2012)
	re-signed by Cleveland 1/17/12 (avoided arbitration)

1 year/$3.975M (2011)
	re-signed by Cleveland 1/18/11 (avoided arbitration)

1 year/$0.4611M (2010)
	re-signed by Cleveland 3/10/10

1 year/$0.4203M (2009)
	re-signed by Cleveland 2/22/09 ($234,300 in minors)

1 year/$0.3904M (2008)
	re-signed by Cleveland 3/7/08

1 year/$0.3831M (2007)
	re-signed by Cleveland 2/07 (split contract paying $109,600 in minors)

1 year (2006)
	re-signed by Cleveland 3/06
	acquired by Cleveland in trade from Seattle 7/06, with Indians paying Mariners undisclosed amount of cash

signed by Cleveland as a free agent from South Korea in 2000

$1.3M signing bonus

agent: Scott Boras

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Old 12-11-2012, 04:15 PM   #30
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Despite the rumor being Choo in CF, they'd have plenty of time to make that decision later if they feel Bruce would be better there.
I concur. I think at this point it's about adding productive bats that can play somewhere. They'll have plenty of time to figure out exactly how the rest works out. No one says this has to be the last deal they make either.
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