Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious

[Benihana]

Wow, throw out Choo's injury-riddled 2010 where he only played 85 games, and he has averaged an .860 OPS and 150 games played per season the last 3 years. That may just help this Reds lineup...

[M2]

Originally Posted by Benihana

Doesn't that just make him pan-Asian?

Well, his family is Asian (or at least his dad's side of the family is), but he was born and raised in Panama.

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by Benihana

Outside of Danny Graves, would Choo be the first Asian player in Reds history?

Sun Woo Kim

[jhu1321]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Much better hitter, more power potential, better defensively, better speed and a better arm. So he is just like Paul Janish, but better at everything across the board than him.

This is funny as hell.

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Much better hitter, more power potential, better defensively, better speed and a better arm. So he is just like Paul Janish, but better at everything across the board than him.

A better hitter based on what? He looks like a high 600 OPS bat.

[_Sir_Charles_]

If Didi has a better arm than Janish, I'm looking forward to watching him play a bit more. I've only seen him twice and I thought he was decent. A solid SS prospect, but I apparently didn't see him at the right time I guess.

[Superdude]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

A better hitter based on what? He looks like a high 600 OPS bat.

I don't know what Gregorius projects to be exactly, but saying he's a better hitter than Janish isn't exactly hard to believe

[reds1869]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

Sun Woo Kim

And who can ever forget that dominant lefty Jung Keun Bong.

[RedsManRick]

Originally Posted by Edd Roush

Why do you think this, Rick?

Well, Cleveland has more SS than they need already. No reason for them to acquire another one. Meanwhile, they've been working hard at a deal with Arizona, presumably for Trevor Bauer. The D'Backs have a ton of SP and presumably want to deal some of it to land a SS if they can't get one via an Upton trade.

[M2]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

A better hitter based on what? He looks like a high 600 OPS bat.

You can steal Paul Janish's lunch money with a .600 OPS.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

A better hitter based on what? He looks like a high 600 OPS bat.

Based on his tools. Janish at the same age was playing a full season in Dayton. Gregorius hit .267 between AA, AAA and the Majors this year. Gregorius isn't some superstar at the plate. He projects to be a .275-.280/.330/.400 type of hitter. At shortstop, with outstanding defense.... yeah, Paul Janish can't touch that.

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by Superdude

I don't know what Gregorius projects to be exactly, but saying he's a better hitter than Janish isn't exactly hard to believe

That's why I called him a glorified Janish, but a 600 OPS, better or not, still isn't something to get all fired up about.

[Caveat Emperor]

Saying "He hits better than Paul Janish" is like telling a girl she has a great personality.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

That's why I called him a glorified Janish, but a 600 OPS, better or not, still isn't something to get all fired up about.

Of course not, but there is a big difference between a .600 OPS and the guy Gregorius projects to become.

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by M2

You can steal Paul Janish's lunch money with a .600 OPS.

Definitely, but even if its better, it's still not worth getting excited about.

Glorified Janish may not have accurately portrayed what I meant, more like a rich man's Janish, or really just a defensive specialist to put it simply.