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Old 12-11-2012, 09:41 PM   #511
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Whoa... he makes out more? I knew he was a baseball player -- but I guess he's also a player!
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:41 PM   #512
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

Seems like the every day lineup, bench and rotation may be pretty-much set (assuming they close the deal on Hanrahan). All that seems to be left is whittling down the bullpen, whihc is a minor embarrassment of riches.

CF Shin-Soo Choo
2B Brandon Phillips
1B Joey Votto
LF Ryan Ludwick
RF Jay Bruce
3B Todd Frazier
SS Zach Cozart
CA Ryan Hanigan

IF Jason McDonald
IF Jack Hanrahan
OF Chris Heisey
OF Xavier Paul
CA Devin Mesaraco

S1 Jonny Cueto
S2 Mat Latos
S3 Aroldis Chapman
S4 Homer Bailey
S5 Bronson Arroyo
LR Mike Leake/Sam Lecure
MR Nick Massett/Logan Ondrusek
R7 Jose Arredondo/Alfredo Simon
L7 Tony Cingrani/Ryan Dennick
R8 JJ Hoover
L8 Sean Marshall
CL Jonathan Broxton

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:42 PM   #513
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That's not the only way of creating value. I feel like you're being a little narrowminded on this issue.
Of course it isn't. But it is a real big part of it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:42 PM   #514
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I mean, are we really complaining about the one weak bat in our lineup that still provides offensive pop and great defense?
LOL. I know. I'm not getting it.

I guess it's just one of those days. It bookends the "los rojos" thread feeling rather nicely I think. Over-dramatizing and over-blowing....Redszone's off-season traditions at their finest. :O)
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:42 PM   #515
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Cozarts the new low man on the totem pole. Look out Zack, we're coming for you.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:43 PM   #516
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

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Seems like the every day lineup, bench and rotation may be pretty-much set (assuming they close the deal on Hanrahan). All that seems to be left is whittling down the bullpen, whihc is a minor embarrassment of riches.

CF Shin-Soo Choo
2B Brandon Phillips
1B Joey Votto
LF Ryan Ludwick
RF Jay Bruce
3B Todd Frazier
SS Zach Cozart
CA Ryan Hanigan

IF Jason McDonald
IF Jack Hanrahan
OF Chris Heisey
OF Xavier Paul
CA Devin Mesaraco

S1 Jonny Cueto
S2 Mat Latos
S3 Aroldis Chapman
S4 Homer Bailey
S5 Bronson Arroyo
LR Mike Leake
MR Nick Massett/Logan Ondrusek
R7 Jose Arredondo/Alfredo Simon
L7 Tony Cingrani/Ryan Dennick
R8 JJ Hoover
L8 Sean Marshall
CL Jonathan Broxton
Only minor point... I really don't see the Reds putting Leake in middle relief if he doesn't make the rotation. I think they'll use their last real chance at an option and let him start in AAA until needed.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:43 PM   #517
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

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Seems like the every day lineup, bench and rotation may be pretty-much set (assuming they close the deal on Hanrahan). All that seems to be left is whittling down the bullpen, whihc is a minor embarrassment of riches.

CF Shin-Soo Choo
2B Brandon Phillips
1B Joey Votto
LF Ryan Ludwick
RF Jay Bruce
3B Todd Frazier
SS Zach Cozart
CA Ryan Hanigan

IF Jason McDonald
IF Jack Hanrahan
OF Chris Heisey
OF Xavier Paul
CA Devin Mesaraco

S1 Jonny Cueto
S2 Mat Latos
S3 Aroldis Chapman
S4 Homer Bailey
S5 Bronson Arroyo
LR Mike Leake
MR Nick Massett/Logan Ondrusek
R7 Jose Arredondo/Alfredo Simon
L7 Tony Cingrani/Ryan Dennick
R8 JJ Hoover
L8 Sean Marshall
CL Jonathan Broxton
plus Sam LeCure!
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:43 PM   #518
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:44 PM   #519
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On the downside, I can't see the Reds making any more significant trades for a while...

...because they are completely set at every position. Wow.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #520
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2011 was the 1971 to the 2010.

At least that's how I rationalize it.
Me too. Now it's like 1973 all over again.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #521
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plus Sam LeCure!
He was there at one point. Musta slipped off to the clubhouse to drain the lizard.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #522
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

In 149 big league games, Cozart is a 3 win player according to baseball-reference.com. I'll take that from a shortstop.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #523
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If Zack Cozart is the most pressing of our concerns, I'd say we're a legitimate World Series contender, no?
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:45 PM   #524
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Re: Shin-soo Choo?

Call me crazy, but I still think Walt might have something up his sleeve. He's still got Leake available, for example. There are some teams out there that could use a pitcher like that. And I think the FO values D too much not to at least try to rectify the CF situation...

Don't get me wrong. I think they are ready to go to war with a Bruce-Choo-Ludwick OF. But I think Walt will still sniff around to see if there is a way to get better.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:46 PM   #525
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If Zack Cozart is the most pressing of our concerns, I'd say we're a legitimate World Series contender, no?
Why wouldn't we be? We were before this trade.
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