Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious

[Kc61]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Who said that Cozart was a below average defender?

And a lot of professional people in baseball would take Gregorius over Cozart, probably starting at some point this next season.

Post #526 on this thread. Not you. Says Cozart is slightly below average shortstop.

If Cozart is hitting toward the bottom of the lineup, I'm very happy with him as the Reds' shortstop. Hopefully, Didi will do well too, a different type of player.

[traderumor]

Choo in CF will likely burn us occasionally in bigger ballparks, but I don't think range will be an issue for him in GAB. And we likely do a Heisey to CF with Choo moving to LF in late inning defensive situations. The offensive upgrade suddenly makes this an above average lineup.

[_Sir_Charles_]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Well, he has played all of about 20 games there. He is still pretty raw out there. He should get better with experience.

That's what I thought. Just a few weeks. You can't really expect improvements in that short of a time. I think we'll have a much better handle on what he can do out there around the middle of this coming season.

[Tony Cloninger]

Acquiring Choo is nothing to sneeze at....but to get $3.5 back as well....that's even better.

Doug....when are you ever happy about them trading any prospects. Choo is a solid player, you cannot get him for Grade B prospects, even in his walk year.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

Acquiring Choo is nothing to sneeze at....but to get $3.5 back as well....that's even better.

Doug....when are you ever happy about them trading any prospects. Choo is a solid player, you cannot get him for Grade B prospects, even in his walk year.

I was thrilled about the Mat Latos deal. I am ok with this deal.

Adn Choo is much more than solid. I just don't think he is a center fielder.

[traderumor]

Assuming everyone's healthy, the lineup should now have folks in more natural places:
Righty
Choo
Phillips
Votto
Ludwick
Bruce
Frazier
Cozart
Hanigan/Mes

Lefty
Phillips
Cozart
Votto
Ludwick
Bruce
Frazier
Heisey
Hanigan/Mes

[The Voice of IH]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Well, he has played all of about 20 games there. He is still pretty raw out there. He should get better with experience.

All I'm saying is that it's something to watch for this season, and that he is not starting from a very good place.

It's asking a lot of a player to suddenly change their position. Especially from the infield to outfield no?

[757690]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Choo in CF will likely burn us occasionally in bigger ballparks, but I don't think range will be an issue for him in GAB. And we likely do a Heisey to CF with Choo moving to LF in late inning defensive situations. The offensive upgrade suddenly makes this an above average lineup.

Ludwick will probably need 35-50 games off throughout the season. Use some of them on the west coast trips, put Heisey in center, Choo in left.

[Sabo Fan]

Originally Posted by Big Klu

Bronson now has company.

Bronson's a pitcher though, we all know that doesn't count. A regular position player though? Who is he, Mark Lemke?

[RedEye]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Assuming everyone's healthy, the lineup should now have folks in more natural places:
Righty
Choo
Phillips
Votto
Ludwick
Bruce
Frazier
Cozart
Hanigan/Mes

Lefty
Phillips
Cozart
Votto
Ludwick
Bruce
Frazier
Heisey
Hanigan/Mes

I would think Choo would get a few of the starts against lefties too, wouldn't he? Doesn't he have like a career .340 OBP against them?

[Vottomatic]

I'm stunned we got Choo for two marginal major leaguers.

Stubbs may be out of baseball before long if his numbers continue to trend downward. And Gregorius will never be anything more than a utility guy. No power. Doesn't hit for average. Just a good glove. He's Janish-lite.

Choo was a steal. Reds will be dealin' in 2013.

[Tony Cloninger]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

I was thrilled about the Mat Latos deal. I am ok with this deal.

Adn Choo is much more than solid. I just don't think he is a center fielder.

Yes, that is true you liked that deal better than the Marshall deal....which confused me though more....that you would be.

You said though that this could have serious ramifications later....which said to me, you were not that happy with it. My mistake./

[Virginia Beach Reds]

Good luck to Drew Stubbs. One of the most perplexing talents the Reds have had on their roster in recent years. Love this trade. Good friend of mine (Indians fan) said you have a great player in Choo. Go Reds! Our glaring weakness is not so glaring any longer.

[Roy Tucker]

Walt continues to deal redundent parts for needed parts.

Well done.

[Vottomatic]

Originally Posted by Roy Tucker

Walt continues to deal redundent parts for needed parts.

Well done.

Well said. "Redundant part"