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Vottomatic · 12-13-2012, 03:16 PM

It's the 2013 season. Reds are in first place, and clearly one of the best teams in baseball. Everyone is healthy, especially the starting outfielders, and having great seasons.

At Louisville, Billy Hamilton is progressing quickly, and surpassing everyone's expectations, along with playing a stellar CF.

Suddenly, out of nowhere, Zack Cozart comes down with a season ending injury.

Question: Do you bring up Billy Hamilton to play SS in replacement of Cozart?

Hehehe. Stir the pot.

Chip R · 12-13-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vottomatic

It's the 2013 season. Reds are in first place, and clearly one of the best teams in baseball. Everyone is healthy, especially the starting outfielders, and having great seasons.

At Louisville, Billy Hamilton is progressing quickly, and surpassing everyone's expectations, along with playing a stellar CF.

Suddenly, out of nowhere, Zack Cozart comes down with a season ending injury.

Question: Do you bring up Billy Hamilton to play SS in replacement of Cozart?

Hehehe. Stir the pot.

Good question. I don't think you need to with Hannahan and Donald on the roster.

marcshoe · 12-13-2012, 03:18 PM

Nope. If you don't trust tbe backups you make a trade, maybe for a rental. Don't confuse the kid.

dougdirt · 12-13-2012, 03:22 PM

Nope. You make a trade for another shortstop. If it is after the deadline, you just go with the best defender you have left at short.

11larkin11 · 12-13-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

Nope. You make a trade for another shortstop. If it is after the deadline, you just go with the best defender you have left at short.

IIRC, Negron is known as a pretty good defender at Short right? I know he's a speed demon.

dougdirt · 12-13-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 11larkin11

IIRC, Negron is known as a pretty good defender at Short right? I know he's a speed demon.

He was, but he is also coming off of an ACL injury and hasn't played much SS lately.

klw · 12-13-2012, 05:58 PM

Given that situation, unless there is a inexpensive great SS available, you cover the spot for a week or two while giving BHAM reps at SS in AAA and then you bring him up to fill SS. There were thoughts and lots of calls to have Hamilton up for the playoffs/ September this year. If he is "progressing quickly, and surpassing everyone's expectations" imagine the pressure to get him up for the playoffs next year.

Vottomatic · 12-13-2012, 06:07 PM

I don't really have an answer. But I have more devil's advocate comments:

People fear Billy Hamilton playing 2 positions in the majors, CF & SS, yet had no problem sticking Valdes in CF or all over the diamond.

Frankly, I was more concerned about playing Valdes everywhere, than I'd ever be letting Hamilton occasionally play shortstop, his natural position up until the position change.

But I still don't know what my final answer would be. I guess Regis Philbin will have to wait.

Homer Bailey · 12-13-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vottomatic

I don't really have an answer. But I have more devil's advocate comments:

People fear Billy Hamilton playing 2 positions in the majors, CF & SS, yet had no problem sticking Valdes in CF or all over the diamond.

Frankly, I was more concerned about playing Valdes everywhere, than I'd ever be letting Hamilton occasionally play shortstop, his natural position up until the position change.

But I still don't know what my final answer would be. I guess Regis Philbin will have to wait.

What? Why would we ever ever care about Valdez's development? I'm guessing it's Hamilton's development that is the reasoning why people don't want to jerk him around.

Valdez was a spare part. End of the bench guy. Hamilton is one of the top prospects in baseball. You couldn't compare two guys further on opposite sides of the spectrum.

IslandRed · 12-13-2012, 06:37 PM

Exactly. Valdez was a utility guy, and playing multiple positions competently (if not exceptionally) is the reason these guys have jobs. It's not exactly the same as asking the team's best prospect, the one on the "2014 opening day center fielder" development track, to grab the shortstop glove he hasn't worn for months.

marcshoe · 12-13-2012, 06:46 PM

And Regis Philbin has zero range and a weak arm.

RedsfaninMT · 12-13-2012, 06:49 PM

Gotta let Billy stay in CF in that scenario. I don't see his bat as being "special," and switching him around like that might just set him back to the point that recovering would be almost impossible.

Crumbley · 12-13-2012, 09:24 PM

No way. I want him learning CF without any distractions. Also, who knows if he'd even be useful at SS, everything I read said he was ghastly there.

dougdirt · 12-13-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crumbley

No way. I want him learning CF without any distractions. Also, who knows if he'd even be useful at SS, everything I read said he was ghastly there.

There would be a lot of throwing errors. And a whole lot of "No he didn't just get to that baseball!"

lidspinner · 12-13-2012, 09:39 PM

I let billy play where ever this team needs him......the kid could play adequate at either spot, be it SS or CF.....we are not going to mess up his "development" if we have him play a few months at either spot......sometimes I truly think we over "think" this stuff.....sometimes you just have to let guys go play ball. BH is a player, bottom line.....

12-13-2012, 03:16 PM	#1
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,793	Situational question, just for fun It's the 2013 season. Reds are in first place, and clearly one of the best teams in baseball. Everyone is healthy, especially the starting outfielders, and having great seasons. At Louisville, Billy Hamilton is progressing quickly, and surpassing everyone's expectations, along with playing a stellar CF. Suddenly, out of nowhere, Zack Cozart comes down with a season ending injury. Question: Do you bring up Billy Hamilton to play SS in replacement of Cozart? Hehehe. Stir the pot. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

12-13-2012, 03:18 PM	#3
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,470	Re: Situational question, just for fun Nope. If you don't trust tbe backups you make a trade, maybe for a rental. Don't confuse the kid. __________________ At the Edge of the Woods Preview Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down. --Ray Bradbury

12-13-2012, 03:22 PM	#4
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,715	Re: Situational question, just for fun Nope. You make a trade for another shortstop. If it is after the deadline, you just go with the best defender you have left at short. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

12-13-2012, 05:58 PM	#7
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,305	Re: Situational question, just for fun Given that situation, unless there is a inexpensive great SS available, you cover the spot for a week or two while giving BHAM reps at SS in AAA and then you bring him up to fill SS. There were thoughts and lots of calls to have Hamilton up for the playoffs/ September this year. If he is "progressing quickly, and surpassing everyone's expectations" imagine the pressure to get him up for the playoffs next year.

12-13-2012, 06:07 PM	#8
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,793	Re: Situational question, just for fun I don't really have an answer. But I have more devil's advocate comments: People fear Billy Hamilton playing 2 positions in the majors, CF & SS, yet had no problem sticking Valdes in CF or all over the diamond. Frankly, I was more concerned about playing Valdes everywhere, than I'd ever be letting Hamilton occasionally play shortstop, his natural position up until the position change. But I still don't know what my final answer would be. I guess Regis Philbin will have to wait. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

12-13-2012, 06:37 PM	#10
IslandRed Charlie Brown All-Star Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mt. Juliet, TN Posts: 4,675	Re: Situational question, just for fun Exactly. Valdez was a utility guy, and playing multiple positions competently (if not exceptionally) is the reason these guys have jobs. It's not exactly the same as asking the team's best prospect, the one on the "2014 opening day center fielder" development track, to grab the shortstop glove he hasn't worn for months. __________________ "I don't have a baseball team, I have a theological seminary." -- Charlie Brown

12-13-2012, 06:46 PM	#11
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,470	Re: Situational question, just for fun And Regis Philbin has zero range and a weak arm. __________________ At the Edge of the Woods Preview Go to the edge of the cliff and jump off. Build your wings on the way down. --Ray Bradbury

12-13-2012, 06:49 PM	#12
RedsfaninMT Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 307	Re: Situational question, just for fun Gotta let Billy stay in CF in that scenario. I don't see his bat as being "special," and switching him around like that might just set him back to the point that recovering would be almost impossible.

12-13-2012, 09:24 PM	#13
Crumbley Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toledo Posts: 504	Re: Situational question, just for fun No way. I want him learning CF without any distractions. Also, who knows if he'd even be useful at SS, everything I read said he was ghastly there.

12-13-2012, 09:39 PM	#15
lidspinner Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 817	Re: Situational question, just for fun I let billy play where ever this team needs him......the kid could play adequate at either spot, be it SS or CF.....we are not going to mess up his "development" if we have him play a few months at either spot......sometimes I truly think we over "think" this stuff.....sometimes you just have to let guys go play ball. BH is a player, bottom line.....

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