Reds acquire Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald for Drew Stubbs and Didi Gregorious

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Let's not get into that discussion again, please.

It's been done-- three times in the past few months.

Suffice it to say, there are posters on each side of that fence, and the more you state your opinion as fact, the more people are going to dog you for it. It has little to do with opinions-- it has lots to do with the way those opinions are presented.

If one dives into the archives-and it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do (actually everyone should play in the archives, it's loaded with interesting stuff)-one should just make sure that they accurately represent the original position. If that's the case, there really shouldn't be much of an argument. If that's not the case, then evoking the archives might be one of the more transparent tells there could be....

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

You really, *really* can't understand why that happens?

Sure, I understand why it happens. People get something by "winning" and letting someone else know it.

[Wonderful Monds]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Sure, I understand why it happens. People get something by "winning" and letting someone else know it.

Respectfully, that completely and utterly misses the point

[RedsManRick]

Originally Posted by RedEye

*Love* this post. This happens to me all the time, too. Smart phones have made me into a chain-poster on RZ some days -- as you all may have noticed lately.

Agreed. Posts like this make me want "rep" back...

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds

Respectfully, that completely and utterly misses the point

I don't think it does. If that weren't the point, it wouldn't happen.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Whines? Please. I probably have my opinions attacked on this site more than anyone (at least on the baseball side of the forum). There is no whining. I don't go crying to moderators. I usually just respond back with my evidence as to why I have my opinion. And for the record, no track record is brought up. People bring up Stewart. No one brings up how I told everyone that Stubbs had power when hardly anyone believed he could hit 10 home runs. Or that I was about the only person around who believed Mesoraco was still a prospect (and even a decent one) when most everyone else was writing him off as a bust. My track record isn't perfect. No one who deals in sports is going to be. No one who has and posts opinions on hundreds of players a year will.

Right, you win some, you lose some. Which is why the dogmatism in your assertions is browbeat.

[RANDY IN INDY]

Originally Posted by traderumor

Right, you win some, you lose some. Which is why the dogmatism in your assertions is browbeat.

I think that nails it. When folks make statements with such confidence and certainty, they set themselves up for ridicule when they are wrong.

[westofyou]

Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY

I think that nails it. When folks make statements with such confidence and certainty, they set themselves up for ridicule when they are wrong.

Bank on it

[Roy Tucker]

Originally Posted by westofyou

Bank on it

Mortgage payment and first-born son

[Always Red]

Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY

I think that nails it. When folks make statements with such confidence and certainty, they set themselves up for ridicule when they are wrong.

Conversations go much better when softened with words and phrases such as:

Maybe
Might
Perhaps
In my opinion
Probably
I'm not 100% sure
Possibly
I could be wrong


It's just more social and polite, it's easier to read, and when wrong (happens to me a lot) people go easier on me.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY

I think that nails it. When folks make statements with such confidence and certainty, they set themselves up for ridicule when they are wrong.

Isn't it implied that "I think" is before every statement about the future? But, yeah, I do say things with confidence and certainty. Why would I open my mouth and talk about something I didn't feel that way about? I have strong opinions because I put plenty of thought and research into them.

[RANDY IN INDY]

Originally Posted by Always Red

Conversations go much better when softened with words and phrases such as:

Maybe
Might
Perhaps
In my opinion
Probably
I'm not 100% sure
Possibly
I could be wrong


It's just more social and polite, it's easier to read, and when wrong (happens to me a lot) people go easier on me.

Wise, you are.

[RANDY IN INDY]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Isn't it implied that "I think" is before every statement about the future? But, yeah, I do say things with confidence and certainty. Why would I open my mouth and talk about something I didn't feel that way about? I have strong opinions because I put plenty of thought and research into them.

Tone and perception. Sometimes we don't realize how we come across. Strong opinions get strong replies. Been there.

[CySeymour]

Originally Posted by Always Red

Conversations go much better when softened with words and phrases such as:

Maybe
Might
Perhaps
In my opinion
Probably
I'm not 100% sure
Possibly
I could be wrong


It's just more social and polite, it's easier to read, and when wrong (happens to me a lot) people go easier on me.

I'm wrong so much, I surprise folks when I actually get things right!

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY

Tone and perception. Sometimes we don't realize how we come across. Strong opinions get strong replies. Been there.

Sure. I just find it silly that the replies continue happening, in absolutely no context to that opinion, years and years down the road other than to simply be a "in your face" for the benefit of the person saying "in your face".