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12-15-2012, 09:34 AM
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Dickey to Jays almost done
Dickey for D'Arnaud and Gose as principals. Other players likely prospects may be involved in the final deal. Jays prefer to send Arencibia over D'Arnaud. Mets also want a catcher which is why prospects are being talked. Two sources I read say the principal part isa done deal though.
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12-15-2012, 09:42 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
I like Dickey, but I just don't see him repeating last year. And isn't he on a one year deal? Seems like the Jays are overpaying, but it's hard to say that because he just won the CYA. Just seems like a risky guy going forward. And trading the #1 catching prospect for a question mark is a poor move IMO.
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12-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
On a relared note those crazy Cubbies sign 36 y/o Korean reliever Lim Chang-Yong a sidearm Rh with 296 saves in Asian leagues over 18 yrs. He just had shoulder surgery and likely won't pit h until August 2014...
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12-15-2012, 09:45 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
On a relared note those crazy Cubbies sign 36 y/o Korean reliever Lim Chang-Yong a sidearm Rh with 296 saves in Asian leagues over 18 yrs. He just had shoulder surgery and likely won't pit h until August 2014...this is either really stupid or brilliantly shrewd on Epstein's part.
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12-15-2012, 09:49 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
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Dickey should help the Jays. I think they'll rank as the favorite in the AL East now.
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12-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
RA Dickey doesn't strike fear to me.
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12-15-2012, 10:07 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
I believe as part of the deal they will sign Dickey to a two year extension for about $26M (what he was willing to sign with the Mets for), so they would have him for 3 years at about $10M per season.
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12-15-2012, 10:43 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
Great financial deal for the Jays, but the cost in prospects is high. I like Gose (if he can fix his K and contact issues) as a leadoff hitter, especially. I also really like D'Arnaud. This, IMO, makes the Mets much better as early as this year.
A middle of the order including Davis Wright, Ike Davis, and D'Arnaud with Gose and Daniel Murphy is solid, if not spectacular. Add a couple corner OF bats (Duda and Baxter scare no one), and you've got a solid little lineup in front of a middling pitching rotation and a bad bullpen.
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12-15-2012, 11:34 AM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
Hmmm.
So the Blue Jays, Dodgers, and Angels are in overpaying mode, and trying to win it all. I'm a Dickey fan. But the fact that his lone start against the Reds last year resulted in him getting beat up by our offense didn't help things. Along with the fact I didn't realize he was 39 years old until Brutus pointed it out. Dude will probably pitch 'til he's 45 or so. Good luck to him. If the Reds didn't have their best starting pitching staff in my lifelong Reds fan history, I would have been interested.
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12-15-2012, 11:37 AM
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12-15-2012, 11:48 AM
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 In all seriousness, though, I agree that the deal makes sense for the Jays. Dickey has been consistently good since he started throwing the knuckler, and if the deal really does come with an extension on the order of 2/26, it seems pretty cost-effective. |
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12-15-2012, 01:41 PM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
I actually like the trade for Toronto should it happen. d'Arnaud is a stud but not exactly a sure thing (ie: he's more a Mesoraco than a Posey based on minor league performance). If you are in win-now mode, adding one of last year's Cy Young winners is about as good as it gets.
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12-15-2012, 01:46 PM
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Re: Dickey to Jays almost done
I see the Jays as taking going for it all because this is one of the first times in 10 years where the Yankees and Sox are not clearly the best teams. Toronto knows at some point in the near future everyone else in the AL East will be playing for 3rd again.
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12-15-2012, 01:48 PM
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12-15-2012, 02:09 PM
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