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Ojo Rojo
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Moving to Atlanta in July
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ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
Anyone else catch this from ESPN today? Seems the Reds are getting some respect for 2013 already. Here's the love David Schoenfield gives our beloved team:
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Denver
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
seems like a fair assessment of the Reds to me. As for his overall top 10, he left both the Angels and Giants out of it, expecting the Angels to finish 3rd in the division again. I think you have to
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Potential Lunch Winner
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
Broxton is not the answer at closer....maybe if this were 2007...
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The Boss
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
If Broxton the Reds from 2012 shows up, he can close. If Broxton the Royal from 2012, be worried.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Midland, MI
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
Ya gotta figure the Blue Jays should move into the top 10 after the Dickey trade.
Yet another plus factor for the Nats is having Storen for a full season. It would be a disappointment if that team wins less than 95 games...
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Olathe, KS
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
I'm betting we're getting Broxton the Red in 2013. Broxton the Royal was still shaking off the rust in the early days of his comeback from TJ surgery. By the time he got to the Reds, his control appeared to have returned, and his K/9 and K/BB rates were pretty dominant.
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
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Have Faith In Dusty
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
If this Reds team is healthy they will be able to play with anyone in all of baseball. I do agree that Frazier and Cueto will have to continue what they started in 2012. I think Ludwick will repeat what he did and I have a feeling Aroldis starts the season in the pen and moves his way into a starters spot.
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2013 NL MVP and WS MVP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
Personally, I'm still hoping that Marshall ends up closing. Broxton's a good arm to add to the pen regardless of where we end up using him.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
I like what the Reds have and I like what I think they can do....I still see a few weak spots but I think they can be solved with guys we already have....I think if Masset can come back strong then that helps a ton...if Broxton can be strong then that helps, if Corcino and Cingrani can continue their devolopment then that helps, if Hamilton can do the same then that helps.....
its nice to finally have all the pieces there...we just need to make them fit. Its been a long time since that has happened. |
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
I'm willing to give Chapman a shot at starting. BUT.........I think our starting rotation was like 3rd in all of mlb last season and I think our bullpen was too.
So with Chapman starting, what?........do they move up to 2nd in starting rotation but the bullpen falls to like 10th or 15th???? I'd still like to keep Chapman at Closer. He turns a 9-inning game into an 8-inning game nearly every time. And with Cingrani and Corcino in the wings at Louisville, and Mike Leake hopefully poised for a better 2013 than 2012, I roll the dice and keep the starting rotation the same.
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
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Go watch each player workout and get a sense of their determination for the upcoming season?
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Join Date: May 2007
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
I fail to understand how they can rank NYY #3 going into 2013 with a straight face. That blows my mind.
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
No. There are better ways to project next season's performance than simply by assuming they'll repeat last year. And they don't involve watching the player work out.
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Ojo Rojo
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Moving to Atlanta in July
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Re: ESPN Power Rankings: Nationals, Reds 1-2
Yeah, I didn't take this as much more than a conventional wisdom barometer. Still, nice to see the Reds getting some play. Only time will tell, of course.
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