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texasdave · 12-23-2012, 11:14 AM

1) Billy Hamilton
2) Robert Stephenson
3) Tony Cingrani
4) Daniel Corcino
5) Jesse Winker

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dougdirt · 12-23-2012, 12:00 PM

Nick Travieso.

Kc61 · 12-23-2012, 12:28 PM

Would like to see Josh Fellhauer added to the list next time.

texasdave · 12-23-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Would like to see Josh Fellhauer added to the list next time.

Noted.

texasdave · 12-23-2012, 02:48 PM

Duplicate post.

texasdave · 12-23-2012, 02:55 PM

Out of 48 picks in slot number 14 of the first round, 16 (or a third) have failed to make it to the majors. Of course, some of these players are still making their way through the minors. Another 13 have negative career WAR values (per baseball-reference).

Notable number 14 picks:

Derrek Lee
Tino Martinez
Cliff Floyd
Jason Varitek
Tom Brunansky
Scott McGregor
Don Gullett
Jason Heyward
Lee Mazzilli
Jeff Weaver
Ron Karkovice
Billy Butler

Steve4192 · 12-24-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by texasdave

Out of 48 picks in slot number 14 of the first round, 16 (or a third) have failed to make it to the majors. Of course, some of these players are still making their way through the minors. Another 13 have negative career WAR values (per baseball-reference).

Yep.

My pick is with the guy who has a 100% chance of making the majors and a better than average chance of putting up a positive WAR. Travieso is too far away for my liking. I'll take Henry Rodriguez. He's being under rated this year due to his supposed 'low ceiling' just like Todd Frazier was under rated last year.

Edd Roush · 12-24-2012, 11:46 AM

I'll take the upside of Travieso over the proximity of HRod. HRod is still a good prospect, but I am not sure he will ever have a chance to make a big impact with Phillips locked into 2B. Travieso has ace stuff. I will go with ace stuff over a guy who could be a legit bat, but may not have a chance to play somewhere regularly in the bigs.

*BaseClogger* · 12-24-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Edd Roush

I'll take the upside of Travieso over the proximity of HRod. HRod is still a good prospect, but I am not sure he will ever have a chance to make a big impact with Phillips locked into 2B. Travieso has ace stuff. I will go with ace stuff over a guy who could be a legit bat, but may not have a chance to play somewhere regularly in the bigs.

Should potential playing time have any bearing on a prospect's evaluation? Did you move Yonder Alonso down in your rankings because he was blocked by Votto?

dougdirt · 12-24-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

Should potential playing time have any bearing on a prospect's evaluation? Did you move Yonder Alonso down in your rankings because he was blocked by Votto?

I don't think it should, but at the same time, I don't think the Reds look at HRod as more than a utility guy. That probably should have some bearing on it.

mth123 · 12-24-2012, 01:58 PM

I think its pretty clear at this point. Hamilton and Stephenson are A- guys. Corcino and Cingrani are B's. I had Didi as a B- along with Travieso and Winker. After these guys we're looking at a bunch of C prospects IMO. I hope we could find a C+ or two out of the group that includes H-Rod, Y-Rod, Soto, Lamarre, Rogers, Lutz, etc. I'll be anxious to read the discussion because I think the prospect ranks are only 6 deep. We're into "interesting" from there on IMO.

Steve4192 · 12-24-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

I don't think it should, but at the same time, I don't think the Reds look at HRod as more than a utility guy. That probably should have some bearing on it.

The Reds didn't look at Frazier as anything more than a utility guy either, but they certainly changed their tune once he started smacking around major league pitchers.

dougdirt · 12-24-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve4192

The Reds didn't look at Frazier as anything more than a utility guy either, but they certainly changed their tune once he started smacking around major league pitchers.

I don't think their thoughts were the same. While I am sure there were some who thought he was more utility guy, plenty thought he could start too. Rodriguez, I haven't heard the same kind of things about. Most people think he will hit for a good average, but the whole package isn't really something that gets talked about with him.

*BaseClogger* · 12-27-2012, 04:09 PM

Would it be fair to say Rodriguez's ceiling is similar to that of Martin Prado?

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12-23-2012, 11:14 AM	#1
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,576	Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 1) Billy Hamilton 2) Robert Stephenson 3) Tony Cingrani 4) Daniel Corcino 5) Jesse Winker Christmas Edition. Merry Christmas to everyone. __________________ Let's hang a Championship Banner this year!!!!!

12-23-2012, 12:00 PM	#2
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,759	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 Nick Travieso. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

12-23-2012, 12:28 PM	#3
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,847	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 Would like to see Josh Fellhauer added to the list next time.

12-23-2012, 02:48 PM	#5
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,576	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 Duplicate post. __________________ Let's hang a Championship Banner this year!!!!! Last edited by texasdave; 12-23-2012 at 04:15 PM.

12-23-2012, 02:55 PM	#6
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,576	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 Out of 48 picks in slot number 14 of the first round, 16 (or a third) have failed to make it to the majors. Of course, some of these players are still making their way through the minors. Another 13 have negative career WAR values (per baseball-reference). Notable number 14 picks: Derrek Lee Tino Martinez Cliff Floyd Jason Varitek Tom Brunansky Scott McGregor Don Gullett Jason Heyward Lee Mazzilli Jeff Weaver Ron Karkovice Billy Butler __________________ Let's hang a Championship Banner this year!!!!!

12-24-2012, 11:46 AM	#8
Edd Roush Two-Time Batting Champ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Loveland, OH Posts: 2,641	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 I'll take the upside of Travieso over the proximity of HRod. HRod is still a good prospect, but I am not sure he will ever have a chance to make a big impact with Phillips locked into 2B. Travieso has ace stuff. I will go with ace stuff over a guy who could be a legit bat, but may not have a chance to play somewhere regularly in the bigs.

12-24-2012, 01:58 PM	#11
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,697	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 I think its pretty clear at this point. Hamilton and Stephenson are A- guys. Corcino and Cingrani are B's. I had Didi as a B- along with Travieso and Winker. After these guys we're looking at a bunch of C prospects IMO. I hope we could find a C+ or two out of the group that includes H-Rod, Y-Rod, Soto, Lamarre, Rogers, Lutz, etc. I'll be anxious to read the discussion because I think the prospect ranks are only 6 deep. We're into "interesting" from there on IMO. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

12-27-2012, 04:09 PM	#14
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,078	Re: Who is Redszone's #6 prospect? 2013 Would it be fair to say Rodriguez's ceiling is similar to that of Martin Prado? __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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