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Old 01-17-2013, 05:34 PM   #1
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Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

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Old 01-17-2013, 05:42 PM   #2
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Sign him ASAP. You can never have too many Cy Young winners.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:43 PM   #3
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The fools.

Don't they know he is a future Cy Young winner?
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:45 PM   #4
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Re: Pirates DFA Zach Stewart

In fairness he was DFAed for Jeff Karstens, so it isn't like he was just outright released.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:48 PM   #5
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Can we have a 7-man starting rotation? Sign him quick! We'd have all 7 of the guys getting Cy Young votes at the end of the 2013 season!
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:18 PM   #6
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If he comes back to Cincinnati, does that mean we officially win the Rolen deal?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:13 PM   #7
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You guys laugh, but this is only going to make his story that much more amazing when he wins the Cy Young.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:16 PM   #8
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If he comes back to Cincinnati, does that mean we officially win the Rolen deal?
Nope. Tough to win a trade when you were the only market for the player you traded for and still gave up real talent to get it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #9
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Nope. Tough to win a trade when you were the only market for the player you traded for and still gave up real talent to get it.
Now that's hilarious!
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:39 PM   #10
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Nope. Tough to win a trade when you were the only market for the player you traded for and still gave up real talent to get it.
Often repeated but rarely challenged.

What evidence do you have that the Reds were the only destination Rolen could have ended up at in July 2009? Even if you had no other contenders, they had to meet the Jays price. Why didn't they just trade a bag of balls for him? Would that have been too much?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:44 PM   #11
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Often repeated but rarely challenged.

What evidence do you have that the Reds were the only destination Rolen could have ended up at in July 2009? Even if you had no other contenders, they had to meet the Jays price. Why didn't they just trade a bag of balls for him? Would that have been too much?
At the time, everything you heard was that Rolen was forcing his way out and he would only accept a trade to a team in the Midwest. Go look at who was playing third base for all of the teams in the Midwest at the time. The Reds were the only option.

Obviously you have to trade something for him. But you probably shouldn't be trading a top trading chip plus a proven Major Leaguer for a 34 year old with a bad back on a 1 year and 2 month deal.

This has all been hashed out a thousand times though. That is how I see it. I am leaving it at that.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:26 PM   #12
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At the time, everything you heard was that Rolen was forcing his way out and he would only accept a trade to a team in the Midwest. Go look at who was playing third base for all of the teams in the Midwest at the time. The Reds were the only option.
The Cards went all year without much at third that year, FWIW.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:31 PM   #13
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The Cards went all year without much at third that year, FWIW.
You are right. But given how he and TLR got along, that wasn't a place he would go either.
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The Cards went all year without much at third that year, FWIW.
That ship had already sailed. Hence the trade to the Jays. The White Sox may have been in play, though.

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:39 PM   #15
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If he comes back to Cincinnati, does that mean we officially win the Rolen deal?
Both teams got what they wanted. I'd say they both won.
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